Ever wondered about some of the more curious aspects of online dating?
Like why some men write mini-essays to you while others make do with, “Waz up, babe?”
Or why some men come off as jerks from the get-go, despite the fact they’re supposed to be trying to win you over?
Or why men in their 50s focus on younger women, to the extent that they don’t even bother messaging women their own age?
Then talk to Elizabeth Bruch.
She’s a sociology professor at the University of Michigan, and she can tell you all about “aspirational pursuit of mates in online dating markets.” In fact, she just published a study on that very topic.[1]
After studying thousands of interactions between 186,000 men and women on a popular dating site, she concluded this:
We can’t stop trying to date out of our league.
Why Men Think They Can Score Someone Out of Their League
“The vast majority of men send messages to women who are more desirable than themselves on average,” Bruch and her co-author M. E. J. Newman write.
Anyone who’s ever dated online can see this in action.
Ever looked at the profile of a man who messaged you and thought, “What planet is HE living on?”?
There’s no WAY a woman like you would be interested in a man like him. Surely that’s obvious.
But that’s not how online daters think.
And that includes women.
Both men AND women tend to message partners who are exactly 25% more desirable than themselves.
They hardly ever message anyone they consider less desirable.
So when you get a message from a guy who’s nowhere near your league, don’t get annoyed. This is just how it works.
Bruch and Newman explain:
“Messaging potential partners who are more desirable than oneself is not just an occasional act of wishful thinking; it is the norm.”
Why Older Men Message Younger Women
Does that explain why so many 50-something men are setting their sights on 20-year-olds?
Not exactly.
Bruch’s research found that age plays a major factor in determining desirability.
I’m going to quote from the study here, because there’s no way of putting this delicately:
“The average woman’s desirability drops from the time she is 18 until she is 60. For men, desirability peaks around 50 and then declines.”
Which means that 50-year-old men are hot stuff online. They think they can get a younger woman because they’re getting so much attention themselves.
Does that match up with your experience?
A guy friend turns 40 and finds he starts doing really well online. You turn 40 and discover that your matches drop off precipitously.
Totally unfair.
Why Guys Can Be Such Jerks at First
The first message you get from a guy is the most important.
If you don’t like the sound of him, you won’t reply. He’s wasted his time AND put you off him.
So it would make sense for men to put a little time and effort into crafting a message that gives you a positive first impression.
But that’s not how it works.
You get these short, sometimes rude first messages because they actually WORK for the men sending them.
Here’s why.
It’s not an effective use of time for a man to craft a witty, eloquent message to each woman he’s interested in. He hears back from less than 10% of the women he messages.
And he’s the one who has to do most of the leg work. More than 80% of first messages are initiated by men.
So it makes sense for men to invest as little time as possible in each message, going for quantity over quality.
But there’s an interesting twist…
The more desirable the woman, the more the man wants to impress her. So he writes a longer message.
He’ll write up to twice as much to a woman he REALLY wants to impress.
Does that work for him?
Nope. In this study, women were less likely to respond to longer messages. (The only exception was Seattle, where women like a bit of romantic verbiage.)
Men also find that it works against them to be too positive in that first message. The more positive words they use, the less likely they are to get a response.
I guess those curt first messages are here to stay.
What You Can Take Away
So what does this mean for you?
Here are some positive takeaways from the study:
- If a man writes to you, it means he thinks you’re more desirable than him.
- If he writes a long first message, it means he’s really impressed by you.
- If you get fewer than 10 new messages a month, you’re normal.
And if you like men who woo you with words, move to Seattle. There are twice as many men as women in some areas, putting odds in your favor.
[1] http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/8/eaap9815
Thank you. I appreciate your answer. I am not sure there is such and organization in my area.
I am happy for you. It is so nice to be able to share.
I am 75 years old and my husband passed away last year.
To tell you the truth, it is not easy to find a companion at our age. It is certainly a problem when men want a personable person but have let themselves go.
Am I looking for something that does not exist and need to lower my standards?
Rita, you should find someone who makes your heart sing. Someone who enriches your life. Don’t settle for a relationship that doesn’t do that for you.
Yes, it gets harder later in life, but the world is HUGE and there is no end to the number of new people you could meet if you put your mind to it and enjoy the challenge as if it were a fun game that sparks new life and energy as you play it.
James
You’re right James I’m 70 and my guy is 82. We met online about a year ago and we keep finding all the ways we make each others’ hearts sing. I love who I am with him. We bring out the best in each other.
I’ve used all my learnings from your programs, James, and it definitely works, including crafting an online profile that was both positive and clearly defined what I was looking for.
It took him many years to find me and he was beginning to lose hope that his true love was out there. I was online for only a short while, James I believe your good advice speeded up the whole process of not only finding him but also creating an amazing relationship.
So Rita please take heart. There is a good man out there for you. He will cherish you and adore you. You’ll feel the same way about him and together you’ll make each other’s lives just sing and dance.
Hi Rita, I’m a widow as well. I lost my husband when I was 48, he was 51. I am 65. I have dated and now have someone special in my life for three years.
I would attend widow/widower meetings in your local area. That way you already understand the loss. It’s easier.
Karen, Maybe my profile on the dating site is not appropriate as the persons I get in touch with do not answer.
I find this most difficult.