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July 20, 2019 at 11:04 am in reply to: He never married or had children. Now 49 and doesn’t see long term thing with me #21637
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Colleen!
Yes! You are getting it! Well done!!!
The thing about dating that everyone has to be VERY careful of, is to not get swept away by the “feelings” that are there when they are with the other person. Remember that your feelings ARE NOT FACTS. That is the main reason to take things slow. It is so crucial to get the facts about that person to support the feelings to know you are dealing with the WHOLE package….hence why I teach people that dating is EXACTLY like a job interview. The job is YOUR heart. They are applying and you need to be in the mindset that they have to earn the right to be in your space. That’s the part most people miss, because the chemistry is so strong and they get swept away in it. For you in particular, being that this was the first time you kissed with your eyes closed and how magical it felt, it’s a new experience which also adds to the power and the fantasy about who this man is. In your mind I imagine you feel that the fact that he could activate that in you and your husband of 24 years could not, “it must mean something.” That statement and belief is very dangerous. Its’ purely about chemistry without time and experience to support that it means anything. Does this make sense?
I want to give you a little homework assignment to start. I call it the “non-negotiable list.” This is the most important list to create and have in the forefront of your mind when dating. This is a list of qualities in him, that you CANNOT live without, in a relationship. If these qualities don’t exist, there is no way the relationship will last. Here are just a few of mine.
Your guy must be / have:
1. romantic
2. high emotional intelligence
3. active
4. loves animalsThis list is more than just what you want, they are non-negotiable qualities. So let’s say you come up with 10 things. If you meet a guy that has 9 out of 10 qualities, you still move on. Each of those qualities is so important and crucial to a successful relationship with you.
Then what you do, is you go test it out in the dating world. Your list will change and evolve as you change and evolve. So for example, I used to have on there athletic. I really needed a guy who played a sport and was good at it (I was in my 20’s and playing high levels of soccer). That is mostly what I attracted and dated. But then I dated a couple of guys who didn’t play a sport but were active. They hiked, they worked out, they ran etc. I realized being active was what was really important to me. I know there is no way, in a million years, that I could be a guy who sat on the couch and didn’t make activity a big part of his life.
How does this feel for you?
Heidi
July 19, 2019 at 11:50 am in reply to: He never married or had children. Now 49 and doesn’t see long term thing with me #21624Heidi G
ModeratorHi Colleen,
Dating is challenging isn’t it? How long have you guys known each other? How did you meet? Do you know if he is dating other people as well? Did he say SPECIFICALLY why he didn’t see this as long term?
It sounds like he has a strong response to you being that he is connecting with you multiple times a day and you guys have a lot of fun together. Does he feel the same as you? That might be something to discuss further with him, but again, it depends on how long you have been dating.
Here is the thing about dating that mess up a lot of people….they try to predict the future. What if you just stayed in the present moment and just had some fun. As long as he is willing and you are willing to just enjoy each day without needing to predict where it’s going to go, you BOTH will have a more powerful experience with each other. Should the time come where he or you feels like it’s time to separate, you will deal with it then…or maybe you both decide you would like to go deeper and you will have that discussion when the time is right.
You don’t want to make any decisions FOR him. You really don’t know what his experience of you is, so breaking it off so he can go experience what you feel is like being a “mother” wanting to make a decision that is good for him. He is an grown can take care of himself. Any decisions you make, need to be for yourself only.
The moment you get into the fear about losing him, is the moment you lose connection to yourself. He deserves to know the authentic you. He deserves to have a woman strong enough that knows she will be okay, whether he is in the picture or not. Keep your self esteem and value connected to the truth of who you really are vs. putting it in his hands. Your fear of losing him is changing how you behave with him and that is just not necessary. Trust that you are enough, just as you are, ALL OF YOU, and whether he chooses to stay or go, that doesn’t change anything. There are more guys out there that you can have fun with and find a strong connection with. What’s most important here is that you have the strength to be you, messy and all. That is what gives a relationship a chance to grow.
Thoughts on all of this?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Sarah,
I am soooo so sorry for what you are going through. It is the hardest thing to be rejected like that without any explanation or understanding about what happened. It isn’t fair and it is actually very unkind.
He shut his feelings off as a protective mechanism. I have no doubt he still loves you. I used to do the same thing where after a breakup, I would go cold turkey while the guy was trying to connect and figure things out. The only way I could survive the breakup was to go cold. It’s not that the feelings weren’t there…it’s that the feelings WERE there and the only way I could not let those feelings take control of me was to go cold. It’s not a healthy way to deal with it at all. It’s a sign of emotional fragility. One thing to really consider is that if he can do this to you, to someone he loves…just up and leave without talking to you about his reasons and going cold, he would be someone VERY difficult to be in relationship with when stress or struggle showed up. He is showing you how he handles stress and struggle. He shuts off and runs away.
The very first thing you need to do is to start taking care of yourself. It’s possible he come back to you down the road, but giving yourself some space, giving him some space and respecting his choice for the moment, can be a really good thing. I would suggest no longer attending his class and find a different class to go to. Let him feel the absence of you in his life.
Is there anything in the past where he might have mentioned something that he was uncomfortable with? Do you know much about his past relationships? If yes, how did he talk about them? Did it still feel like he had hurt and resentment from the past or does he seem very peaceful about all his past relationships?
I know this is so hard, but it really, really important that you don’t create a story around what is happening. It’s not your fault. You were doing the very best you knew how. There is NOTHING you can do for someone who doesn’t tell you what they are feeling or needing from you. This is HIS responsibility, not for you to figure out what went wrong. What really went wrong is that something happened for him and he just ran instead of talking to you about it. That is ON HIM, not you. You can only do what you can with the information you are being given. If he is being judgmental towards you about something you did or that happened, that is also HIS problem, not yours. You are just being human.
Love yourself. Stay connected to the truth that you are valuable and love able, just as you are….mess and all. That is the truth. His lack of choosing to fight for you, does not change your value. If he cannot accept you and embrace you for all that you are, then he is not someone to go the distance with anyways.
Again, I am so so sorry. I wish there were more information you could give us, but if he is just ghosting you and you have no clue why, it’s hard to know how to correct anything. The more you connect to yourself and pull your energy away from him, the more he will feel the absence of you and maybe that is the best thing for him right now…the feel the FULL extent of his choice.
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Jeannie,
I’m so glad you are really connecting more and more to your behaviors and reactions. Reality, when someone ghosts us, accuses us of being something we are not etc. it activates a feeling of powerlessness. That feeling of powerlessness then activates your need to find personal power, which leads to a need to control. The stories you create are at least a way you are able to feel control again, even if it is just about yourself. If you can explain why someone is behaving the way they do towards you, then it helps you avoid the feelings of powerlessness….which you have had a lot of in your life. Does this make sense? This is only one possible thread as to why you make up stories. There are many possibilities, but what is most important is that you recognized it and can now work to shift it.
Whenever you start to make up stories, stop for a second and recognize what you are feeling in that moment. Betrayed? Rejected? Insecure? Once you identify it, you can then work with what you need in that moment. So if you feel insecure, you need to feel security. If you feel betrayed or rejected, you need to feel connection. Now that you know what you need, you can then figure out ways to meet your own needs. That is what self love is. When you busy yourself with work or dating other guys, yes the uncomfortable feelings go away, but only because you buried them. They will come up again and again and again until you truly face them, feel them and work through them. If a therapist is ever an option for you, I would highly recommend that! It’s a great way to learn how to manage your emotions in a much healthier way. You can also look up EFT or TFT on YouTube. That is a super easy and powerful tapping tool to help you move the emotions out of your body instead of burying them. I honestly have about 10 different tools that I use whenever I feel I am being triggered or my needs aren’t being met. If one tool doesn’t work, I use another one and then another one etc. It starts the healing process. When I can’t fully and completely clear my emotional reactions alone, I have a coach I work with that can help me get at the deeper, bigger issue.
Hopefully this gives you some new ideas about how to handle all of this in a more healthy way.
Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorGreat! I’m so glad yo resonate with this! We would love to hear your process and how you connect with yourself. You will find that when you meet your own needs, it can create a lot more ease and flow into the relationship. Let us know how it goes and what you come up with!
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Sarah,
I know how hard this is. Let’s see if there is a way to shift your perspective here. You care and respect him a lot….do you feel the same about yourself? You know that you have a tendency to lean on others for self confidence and worth and at the present moment, he is dealing with something that is keeping him from being able to offer any of that to you. This is such a PERFECT time for you to develop your inner self worth and confidence. This is something you want, yes? One of the BEST and most powerful ways to increase your self esteem, is to feel rejected. It’s painful and uncomfortable and what everyone want to do to feel better, is look to the other person to fix it. You are needing him to show you more affirmations and create dates in order to feel better about yourself. Of course that is also a natural desire for a relationship, but PART of you needing that from him is because you are feeling insecure. So let’s deal with that particular part.
Here is a simple process to go through. First, identify dominant thought and feeling. I know you have many, but there will be one that will stand out the most. Once you identify those, you can then look at the need you have. So if your dominant though is, “I don’t know if he cares about me” and your dominant feeling is insecure….you know you need to feel security. For every feeling or emotion that you have, you also have a need. So now that you know you need to feel secure, you can figure out ways to connect to yourself and meet that need yourself. So share with us, what you come up with and then we can offer some ideas about how to get your needs met, without needing him to do it for you. This is such an important, life long, skill essential for any healthy relationship.
Make sense?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi DeEtta!
I love those 3 qualities! Those are definitely part of my non-negotiable list as well. I actually have been able to meet several men who embodied those qualities, so I know it’s possible.
But you are SPOT ON! The only way to attract a man with those qualities, is to be those exact same qualities yourself, first and foremost. If you want an emotionally intelligent man, then you must BE that and practice it.
Let’s look at attraction for a second. If you understand that every single person that shows up in our lives, is a mirror, then you can understand what EXACTLY they are there to teach you. The mirror (other person) shows you 1 main thing….the energy you carry within you that brought them into your space. That can be expressed in 2 different ways: 1. They can be mirroring back to you how you treat others, so they are giving you an experience of yourself or 2. They can be mirroring back to you a belief you carry within yourself. For example, if you attracted a man who is emotionally unavailable, then he is mirroring to you the belief that you deep down don’t feel like you deserve to be connected with.
I ALWAYS use the people in my life, to help me see what is happening in the subconscious part of me. If there are people that show up, that I end up struggling with, I ask myself, “what are they here to teach me?” In the same respect, if I attract people who are wonderful, connective, open, authentic…the kind of people to take loooong journeys with…then I know I am doing well! So lets talk about the “why” behind you never having experienced a man who has all 3 qualities. What beliefs can you connect to, that would prevent a man like that from coming into your life?
Heidi
July 17, 2019 at 11:18 am in reply to: Boyfriend split with me as he says he doesn’t feel the same anymore #21589Heidi G
ModeratorHi Rebecca,
Thank you for sharing all of your thoughts and feelings about this! This is great work and very good awareness about yourself!
You want to know how to get him closer to you? You stop needing him to make you feel secure and happy. I know…much easier said that done. And I know you know this, but you are not quite able to FEEL this way. It’s an issue many of us have. We know eating that eating pizza and cookies all the time isn’t good for our bodies, but we do it anyways. We know drinking every night is not the best choice, but we do it anyways. We know we need to exercise everyday, but we don’t. We each have different areas in our lives where we struggle between what we know is the most effective choice, yet our behaviors / feelings / choices don’t align with what we know. So what you are feeling is very normal.
Let’s talk about this in further detail. The truth is, is you have a tendency to get consumed and he felt like part of the reason you guys broke up because you needed to more things separately….it’s obvious he felt smothered in some way. He felt your neediness. Even if you guys only hung out a few times a week, he felt an energy from you and a pressure from you, which I imagine you weren’t even aware was leaking out. You are giving him a BIG responsibility that is impossible to achieve…..you are giving him the responsibility of your happiness. You are wanting to “do” something to pull him closer so you can feel better about everything. You are relying on him to act in a certain way in order for you to feel comfortable. Again, I know you understand this, I am just re-enforcing it.
I know how hard this is and how uncomfortable this is. If you really want him to give you his heart, he needs to feel that you are solid inside, with or without him. He needs to feel that you can take care of yourself and not rely on him. He needs to feel your inner strength, not the neediness. You can fake it all you want, but it still leaks out in ways you won’t even see, so YES….it’s time to deal this and explore what is causing you to wrap your identity up in someone else.
First, there is a fantasy you have that if he just opened up his heart to you, then everything would be okay. I wish it were that easy, but the deeper you go with someone, the more risk there is and more internal work that needs to be done to deal with all the triggers that come up from both people. You know how you want so badly to hold his heart in your hands? To have that kind of trust from him? You need to be doing that for yourself FIRST and foremost. You are so focused on him, that you end up losing yourself in the process. To be healthy, means you choose yourself FIRST, you connect with yourself FIRST, you honor your needs FIRST before you start to negotiate, compromise or even hand your heart over to someone else to take care of WITH you, NOT FOR YOU.
The best thing you can do right now is to focus on yourself. When you get to a place where you are so connected to yourself, you love yourself, you nourish yourself really well, THEN you will know that whether he chooses you or not, you will be okay because he does not define your value. That is the place you want to get to. That is a place that will inspire a man to want to give you everything.
So let’s fill in the gaps a bit…since you say this is a pattern of yours, that typically means there were some experiences or role modeling that taught this to you. Can you connect to anything from your childhood? Any abandonment? Neglect? Abuse?
Here is a very sweet video about this concept. This is the beginning. Let me know your thoughts about all of this and let’s begin this new journey of experiencing relationship in a more empowered way!
Heidi
Heidi
July 16, 2019 at 11:37 am in reply to: Boyfriend split with me as he says he doesn’t feel the same anymore #21581Heidi G
ModeratorHi Rebecca!
The unknown is soooo hard isn’t it?? That’s why love is such a risk. You just don’t know. One minute you think you are heading down one road and the next, you get knocked off….OR….you get to keep heading down that road. You really just never know. Love is a choice…a DAILY choice. Even if you were committed, there will still be an element of the unknown. I know many people who have been together for decades who have been sideswiped by their partner. It takes great strength to love because of that one simple factor…it takes 2 people and all you have control over is yourself. The other person gets to do what feels right for them, even if it means crushing your heart.
Remember to keep just bringing yourself back to the present moment. For today, he is still connected and THAT IS ENOUGH!!! Appreciate and have gratitude for what you DO have and not what you don’t have quite yet. It will help you with having patience when you focus on what IS working for you guys.
You are doing such a great job!!!
Heidi
July 16, 2019 at 11:01 am in reply to: Boyfriend split with me as he says he doesn’t feel the same anymore #21579Heidi G
ModeratorHi Rebecca!
It sounds like you are very clear about what you need right now. You guys are doing great….one step at a time. For now, you are both on the same page and that is so important! It sounds like you guys are communicating really well and creating a new version of “us.”
I would recommend saying how you feel about sex. That is a really big deal for a guy in a different way that it is for a woman. Telling him, when you guys are NOT being intimate is the best time. It is extremely difficult for a guy to put the stop sign up right in the throws of passion. So telling him beforehand, he will better be able to manage himself and his expectations. You can say something like, “I was thinking about this when you were gone. How do you feel about not having sex again, until we know for sure we want to be committed and in a relationship again?” It’s a great way to start out the conversation which can lead to you expressing how you feel about it. Again, have this discussion when you are not in bed or being passionate with each other. It can be a conversation about discussing what is okay and not okay for you guys. So you don’t want sex, but are there other things you feel okay with? Get specific and clear with what feels okay for you, so you guys can be on the same page in this category as well.
Does this make sense? How does this approach feel for you?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Jeannie!
I’m glad you were able to get that book! It’s a great book isn’t it?? I learned about this book through Kanya as well.
On some level, “vetting” someone you are getting to know is important. People should do that more often! A healthy relationship is not just based on feelings, but more based on how well you can live your lives together, to put it simply (although it’s far from simple). It sounds like this guy is “vetting” you in an unhealthy way though. It sounds like he is leading with his mind and not his heart. It sounds like he is checking off a list to make sure you match everything. I agree….yuk! Although it’s important to have certain qualities exist in a relationship, it shouldn’t feel like a job interview. People approaching dating in that fashion, are usually pretty scared. They have a lot of fear, so they end up controlling the situation quite a bit (through their mind – because they are too scared to use their heart).
What is your plan for Thursday? Are you wanting to gather more information or something? If this feels gross to you, how come you are still going to dinner? If you feel like you want to bail, is there something stopping you from just ending it right now?
Heidi
July 13, 2019 at 11:46 am in reply to: He is living with a girl whom he says he isn’t intimate with but who took care o #21530Heidi G
ModeratorHi Patricia!
Welcome! Thank you for sharing your very interesting challenge.
This is a very interesting dynamic. Maybe they have an open relationship and that’s why he can say and do all of that in front of her and it doesn’t phase her. Is that something you are willing to participate in?
This is the most important thing I want you to consider…..yourself. Ignore all of the chemistry you feel when you are together. If you take that away, is this situation and his choice, something you are willing to accept? It doesn’t matter “why” he is with her. What matters is that he IS choosing her. He is choosing a woman who is very disconnected from everyone. He is choosing a woman who is using him, he is choosing a woman he feels obligated to, he is choosing a woman who doesn’t even care if he flirts and connects with another woman right in front of her. Is that the kind of man you want to choose??? Does he embody what you want in a deep, connective relationship? His choice to be with that kind of woman, instantly tells you where he is at emotionally and what he is really ready for and what he is willing to participate in. It’s not a bad thing…it’s just who he wants to be and that’s okay! This is about you seeing beyond the chemistry you feel and SEEING who he is as a person and making a decision from that space, as to whether he is a good fit for you or not.
Many people make decisions and chase after relationships, because of how they feel and the chemistry. It is soooooo dam powerful! The problem with that, is they ignore how the relationship functions, how the other person functions and then they get themselves into trouble, because eventually everything will hit the fan. BEFORE entering into a relationship and handing your heart over to anyone, there needs to be a lot of time spent together, seeing each other under stressful situations and how it’s handled, lots of practice with communication etc. He needs to earn the right to your heart. He doesn’t get to have you, just because there is chemistry. He gets to have you, because he has treated you with respect. He gets to have you, because he is able to see ALL of you, not just your beauty. He gets to have you, because you guys are like-minded and approach life in a very similar way. He gets to have you, because he is interested in knowing and being known in the depths of your souls. This is what I imagine you want, yes? If this is not what you want and you just want to play and have fun, then I imagine that is exactly what he can offer you and no more. So it really is up to you as to how you participate with him.
Does this make sense?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Irina,
This makes a lot of sense. His whole world is shifting and changing right now. He is right…he should have been dating. He needs quite a bit of time to recover, heal and re-build his life. The good thing is, he has you to help him do that. If you can be patient and let him figure out his life and remain just friends, there is a good possibility at some point he will turn to you when he is ready. You will have built up a lot of trust and safety with him over time and that can go a loooooong way, especially if his ex really beat him down.
However, it would be dangerous to keep hanging onto him and waiting for him as well. It’s important you keep building that friendship AND to also make sure you keep living your life. Keep going out on dates and keep the door open for other possibilities to enter into your life. If anything, meeting him and having this wonderful experience with him, lets you know that it IS possible to have that kind of connection with a man. Now…you just need to find that with a man who is actually emotionally available.
Is this something you are willing to do?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Jeannie!
This all makes a lot of sense. It sounds like you have a whole bunch of emotions, thoughts and feelings buried inside. It’s quite normal actually. Most people have never been taught how to handle their emotions in a healthy way. Problem is, there is a HUGE price to pay for that. When you carry around all of that baggage, it ends up coming back to bite you. That baggage is like a beacon signal for men (unconsciously of course). It sends out a message to attract a man who also carries a lot of baggage. So think about the kind of man you want in your life.
Let’s start with the non-negotiable list. Write down your top 10 things that you know you CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT in a relationship. If these qualities do not exist in a relationship, then you know your soul will dies a slow death. You know you will not make it. Then when you look at that list, ask yourself and really look deep inside…do I offer all of these qualities in a relationship? See if there are any discrepancies. For example, you might want a guy who is emotionally available and willing to work through all the problems they face and not run from them. That would be an area where there is a discrepancy since you bury your feelings and don’t really know how to work through the hurt and traumas. So in order for you to attract a man who handled his life in that way, you need to be that first and foremost, or a guy who is that way, won’t be attracted to you. Does this make sense? So I’d like to invite you to learn how to start to process through your deep sadness. There are a MILLION techniques out there. Below is a video of one type of technique that I love and have used for a good 20 years now. I would also invite you to consider working with a therapist. It is sooooo helpful to have someone to talk with, support you, offer different perspectives and help you heal. Navigating the waters of emotions is a tough thing. I’ve been doing it forever, but I still need help sometimes because of the intensity that shows up. Is that something you would consider???
Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Irina,
Welcome! You have a really good question! How long has he been divorced? How did you guys meet?
I know you want to show him that it’s okay to love again and that you wouldn’t hurt him in the same way. Reality is though, he is making a very clear choice to run away from his hurt instead of facing it, so he can move on. The best thing you can, is just to stay friends with him and be a good listener, supportive, encouraging etc.
If you try to push him into a relationship with you, if you try to change him on any level, he is going to run in a split second. I understand you have strong feelings for him, but he is not emotionally available for anybody right now. At some point, if he ever deals with all of his feelings and works on healing all of the hurt…then at that point he be ready again. But for now, he would a HOT MESS in any relationship. He can’t even handle you talking about your own life because it triggers him so much. That’s not even much of a friendship. He is VERY FRAGILE and you don’t want to invite that into your life. You can nurture your friendship the way you want to, but I would let go of the idea of him, as your heart will be broken many times over, because of how fragile he is. Besides, do you really want to be with a guy that is so fearful and lets that fear control him? Do you really want to be with a guy who runs from how he feels and runs from how you feel? Anytime you would confront him about something that you need, he would run the other way. Anytime you asked him for something different than what he was offering you, he would get triggered. A relationship with him would be soooooo hard!!! He would not be a good partner, because you would be left alone much of the time.
So my guidance is to really listen to him. He is who he is and the most important thing you can do is to accept him for who he wants to be instead of wanting to change him and how he feels. He wants to let fear control him. He would rather hide in a cave and try to play as safe as possible instead of come out of protective mode and live this beautiful life. And he gets to make that choice. So honor his choice and don’t try to get him to come out of the cave. He needs to make that choice all on his own.
I know this is not what you want to hear. I know you want something more with him as he feels good for you. I wish the chemistry was all we needed to have a good relationship, but that’s just not the case. There is so much more that goes into having a good, healthy, nourishing relationship. Maybe at some point he will change, but until then, accept what he is saying, honor it and remain friends. You need to find a man who is emotionally available and has NOTHING stopping him from wanting to know you fully and completely. That is what your heart truly desires!
Heidi
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