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Heidi G
ModeratorWow! I would have hung up and tried for another time. 2 hours??? That’s crazy! I totally get stupid repetitive music/message. It gets sooooo incredibly irritating. Especially after a few hours. Hopefully it ended up getting resolved!
Heidi
Heidi G
Moderatoryayaya! This is a MAJOR decision! I’m making progress and will one day find someone worthy of the love I have to give. The way for this to happen is by making yourself the very first recipient of the amazing love you have to give. This decision did exactly that! You loved yourself more than the fear of being alone and more than the sadness of the loss and more than the little connection you were receiving from him. You DO got this! You made a decision to protect yourself AND your son.
I’m glad you feel relieved. Now don’t be surprised is part of you starts to think about him more and wanting to reach back out again and connect in some sort of way. It wouldn’t be unusual. Expect this to happen and immediately start to love and parent yourself through that. Just like your son and how he sometimes wants things that you don’t want him to have because it’s not good for him…you tell him no…lovingly…and hopefully explain why it isn’t good for him. You parent your little girl’s energy in the same way. You lovingly hold some boundaries for her so you can keep her safe. Does this make sense?
So I want to go back to helping you create a vision for what a healthy relationship looks like. There are a lot of things to look out for when you start dating someone and I want to start to teach you how to go about it a little differently.
First, here is a great resource for you: https://www.gottman.com/
All the information they put out is spectacular and can really help create a more clear picture of what a healthy relationship is. One of my favorite books of theirs is called “The Man’s Guide to Women.” Yes, it’s a book written for men, but it’s short, simple and brilliant. I found it helpful for me because it helped me understand what science has shown the role of the man and how to be the most effective. It also goes into a lot of explaining about what women want and need and it helped me understand myself as well. It’s a quick read and good place to start. They also have many other books and blog posts and seminars/classes. It’s a great place to help keep you heading in a good direction for yourself.The most important part of dating is having a guide post, so to speak. You need to be VERY clear about what your core values are. What ar your non-negotiables? What can you NOT live without in a relationship? Then once that becomes much more clear for you, you date according to those qualities – meaning, you ask your questions and you are observing if that man in front of you carries those qualities. If not, it’s over. So when you create this “list” it truly is non-negotiable. If he doesn’t carry 100% of the qualities you NEED in order to feel nourished in a relationship, then it isn’t going to work. If he has 9 out of 10 qualities, it won’t work…that’s how solid this list is. I’ll walk you through this as long as you are willing. But a good place to start is to think about these categories: Health, family, money, interpersonal, lifestyle, sex and spirituality. It’s just a place to start, so let yourself explore these categories freely. For example, I CANNOT live without romance. Without it, my spirit will die. So it’s a non-starter if a guy isn’t romantic and doesn’t love the creativity of that energy. I also have to have a guy who LOVES animals. Tolerating them is not enough for me. I need him to LOVE them, not just as a nice pet, but as members of the family. I am surrounded by dogs all the time and care for them deeply. I want to have a rescue at some point as well and I support organizations that do the same. It’s a HUGE part of my life that keeps me balanced and he would need to be someone who found joy out of it as well. He doesn’t need to be involved to the level that I am, but he needs to love animals if I am going to let him into my very sacred heart. He also needs to be active. I cannot be with a guy who doesn’t enjoy moving his body. That is the primary way that I play in my life…hiking, biking, volleyball, soccer, tennis, slackline etc. I am very athletic so this is my version of fun. Him being active is non-negotiable. He doesn’t need to be athletic, but he does need to take care of his body through movement somehow. These are just a few examples.
Have fun with this. Create a folder where you write all of this down. Maybe get a notepad and carry it with you as you allow your mind to explore this area of your life!
Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Kolene,
Thank you for sharing more details! There is no such thing as oversharing here. It helps us guide you in a better direction.
maybe it’s sad to me that he’s just gone. While I’m uncertain if anything he said was true including his feelings, mine were and if I delete him and block him then he’s just gone. I don’t know it’s super lame because I know it’s for the best and I know it’s not what I want in a partner, but it’s hard for me. Let’s talk about this. This is what gets everyone in trouble, including yourself. Your fear of letting him go is greater than staying connected to a controlling man. Here is a basic rule to follow as you date: Someone cannot give you something they don’t have. Meaning, he cannot love you if he doesn’t love himself. You cannot love him, if you don’t love yourself. I know it feels like “love” but it’s more a love that is sourced by wounded energy vs. a healthy, nourishing, respectful kind of love. It’s not love when loving someone is not loving yourself. Meaning, when you say you love someone, is it a loving thing to do for yourself to love that person??? Here you are, still “loving” this guy, yet it’s not a loving thing to do for yourself. He is not respectful, kind or caring about you. Yet you want to stay connected? The truth is, I think it’s sad to let him go, not because of letting HIM go, but because you will have to feel the aloneness. You want to stay connected so you can avoid feeling what is there when he is not “keeping you company.” He is a great “target” to put your emotions towards. So if he is gone for good, then what? What feelings come up for you? You are holding onto him, even though he is not healthy for you and even though you guys are barely talking – how is this connection serving you? Staying connected is helping you avoid something else that you don’t want to face…what is it? What are you running from?
And p.s. NO! No friendship! NO helping him through cancer! DO NOT fall into the trap of trying to save him or help him. You will only be stepping right back into another emotionally abusive relationship. STAY AWAY!!! I know it is so much easier said than done. That’s why facing the core root cause of why you are choosing this, is important. Whatever is happening inside of you, it’s causing you to choose unhealthy men and it’s causing you to stay connected to another unhealthy guy – KNOWING he is not good for you. You are learning that what is driving you, has nothing to do with what you know, but instead how you feel. You carry some wounded, little girl energy who so desperately wants to be love and connected to a man, that she is willing to be treated poorly. Would you want to introduce this man to your father? Do you think your father would respect how this man is treating you?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorYou have done everything you can do at this point. You have this love for him but he DOES NOT feel that love for you. You want to fight for the relationship but he DOES NOT want to be with you. You cannot make someone feel something that isn’t there for them anymore. You tried to be friends, you tried communicating and you’ve tried giving him a little space. The result…he has blocked you and only gets irritated. Like I previously said, any contact with you or you making efforts to try and get back together are things that are irritating him.
You keep thinking that if he just unblocked you, you could talk to him and somehow fix this and say something that would re-ignite his feelings for you. That’s just not how it works. At this point, he wants you to leave him alone. He is not responding to any emails you have sent. He has not reached out to you. He is telling you – by ignoring you – that he does not want to get back together. The more you try and talk to him, the further you will push him away.
I really want you to think about this. You say you love him, but everything you have said here shows me that you are more interested in what you want and do not care about what he wants. When you truly love someone, what they want matters to you – even if goes against what you want. Healthy love is respectful and honoring of BOTH people’s needs. Love that lasts, has 2 people who LISTEN to each other. So far, all I have experienced from you is that you do not care about what HE wants. You do not care about what HE needs. You do not care about how HE feels. All I see from you is that what YOU feel is all that matters. You are so focused on what YOU want and he doesn’t matter. You believe in this story that you guys could be happy together and it doesn’t matter that he doesn’t want to be with you…what you believe is all that matters. If this is how you behave and treat him, why would he want to be with someone who treats him that way? You say you are not obsessed, but from what I have seen here, nothing exists except for him. You are choosing to focus all your time and energy on finding ways to get him back, so you lose your joy and happiness and stop living your life. This is an obsession and it causes so much suffering.
There are other, more healthy ways out of this pain and emptiness you feel by not having him in your life. I wonder what you are avoiding in your life. It feels like he keeps you company and somehow helps you not have to feels the other parts of your life. Not having him, means you have to feel all the other feelings that are awful. Are you willing to talk about this? Let’s say he IS in love and with someone else – you need to let him be happy. You need to trust him that he knows what is best for himself. Where does that leave you? What kinds of feelings come up? What happens when you think about letting him go?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorYes, I am understanding you. I understand that you feel love for him very deeply and that you cannot and do not want to give up and let him go. So what happens if he ends up really falling in love with another woman? What happens if he never comes back to you? What are you going to do then? What if you and him are not meant to be together?
I keep trying to guide you in the direction of taking care of yourself and moving on because that is your BEST chance to get him back. Do you understand that the connection with him really got broken when you kept trying to talk to him and get him to come back to you? It might be damage that is not repairable. The BEST chance you have at repairing it, is leaving him alone. DO NOT contact him anymore. DO NOT try and get his or your friends to talk to him. He needs a lot of time away from you. Every time you have tried to reconnect, he has gotten irritated. So now…when he thinks of you, he will feel irritation and he will feel like you don’t listen to him and he will not feel good if he thinks about you. He needs to experience you in a positive way. The BEST way to do that, is to stop pressuring him and to stop trying to get back together. You keep wanting to push him into doing something he doesn’t want to do. His feelings for you are now negative instead of positive because of your pushing. Does this make sense?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorOh there is sooooo much to talk about! I love love love talking about dating and really helping women in your position (which are a lot) where they have no idea how to choose/attract a healthy relationship.
I understand your fear. You don’t trust yourself. That’s the first step and it sounds like you are building that with your therapist. What you CAN trust about yourself is to ask for help. If you are questioning or not sure about a guy, ALWAYS ask friends, come back here, ask your therapist and get other opinions/persepctives. It’s one of the BEST ways to really make sure you staying in alignment with what you want in your life.
If your father and brothers feel like a healthy relationship, let’s just start there. Describe to me how you feel when you are with them. What do you think makes those relationships healthy for you? How do they treat you when they are made or hurt about something you did? And vice versa…how do they respond when you confront them about something they did that hurt you?
You said that you were too scared NOT to marry him. You knew it wasn’t a good thing, but you did it anyways. I first want to point out that your intuition is spot on. You KNOW when something isn’t right for you, so the issue is more about you LISTENING and taking action according to what you are sensing about a guy instead of ignoring it. What were so afraid of that caused you to marry him? Whatever it was, you were more afraid of NOT marrying him, than marrying him. In the end, you left anyways and are learning that it’s all okay! So part of learning to trust yourself, is learning how to face your fears instead of letting the fears make the decision for you. You will ALWAYS have fear. It’s just part of life. Fear is always about the future…something that has not happened yet. Our minds make up these “stories” about the consequences will be if we step into a certain direction. Learning to differentiate between a healthy fear and wounded fear is your first step. If you identity that the fear is coming from wounded, unprocessed energy (from the past), then learning how to step into it, face it, embrace it and move through it, is an important part in recognizing a healthier, more nourishing kind of love. Does this make sense?
Did you let him know you were ending things? Did you block him? If you haven’t done that yet, what is stopping you?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorI’m so glad you are here and that I was able to validate what you already knew. Learning to trust yourself can be a tricky thing. Good job for coming here to get some perspective! That’s what healthy people do…they ask for help. If they don’t know, they research and look for many different perspectives. You are never alone Kolene. There are always people out there who are willing to help, so know that if you just reach out and ask for support, ideas, guidance etc. you will be able to find what you need.
It sounds like you want to end things, so make it short and simple. Send him a message saying something like “I’ve decided that it’s best for me to end things. I wish you the very best in your life. Take care.” DO NOT go into explaining anything. He is not a safe person to share anything with. He will find a way to use it against you, so the more information you give him, the more chance there is for it to come back and bite you. I would also suggest immediately blocking him on all the channels that he is able to connect with you. He most likely will not have an understanding or respectful response, so it’s best to protect yourself from any backlash. Does this approach feel okay for you?
Let’s talk about what a healthy relationship is. What does that mean to you? What does a healthy relationship look like? Have you ever gotten help or worked with someone to help you process your last relationship?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorThe thing is TavShad, that doesn’t exist. I know you want to start afresh, but that is not possible because he doesn’t trust or respect you. There has been damage and that can’t just disappear. He is not going to forget that you crossed his boundaries several times. It’s been almost a year and you are still not willing to go live your life. You have connected your joy and love to HIM and you are making him the ONLY option for you. He is not interested and most guys find that to be a very unattractive quality and will not ever want to get back together.
I’m curious…what is happening for you that you are not willing to go live your life? You have the power within you to find joy and love and happiness WITHOUT him. You can find love with another man. How come you are not willing to let yourself move on? He is NOT the only guy that can make you happy. If you let go of him, if you let go of that love, what do you think will happen?
Heidi
September 7, 2022 at 11:27 am in reply to: Says he wants space, but giving mixed signals. Help! #34258Heidi G
ModeratorI think he is just confused….like he was that last time we split when my life struggles got in the way and consumed me. It feels like you are still taking 100% of the responsibility for the split due to your health and the abuse. It also sounds like you are making excuses for him instead of holding him accountable for HIS side of things. Challenge is what always breaks the connection – you have 2 people who are not on the same page. They are not approaching the challenge in a similar enough way to keep things together. The thing about this situation, is you are learning how he is handling it. He reached his capacity and just can’t be there for you anymore. He needs to be there for himself. What happens when another challenge comes around? Is he going to bail again?
Let’s look at why he left. I know I have very limited detail, so I’m just going to go off of what you told me. He left because his actions were co-dependent. That means: Meeting the needs of others at the expense of yourself. Sure, this is going to happen sometimes and it can increase when your partner has health issues. But when you don’t take care of yourself in the process, you end up emptying yourself out for the other person. Why? Because your identity is tied to that behavior and you don’t know how to be any other way. It’s how your system is tied into your belief/definition of “love.” The truth is though, it’s a very wounded/unhealthy frequency of love. It’s the “martyr” archetype – I’m going to sacrifice myself for you. So many heroes in movies will sacrifice themselves for the good of the whole, right?? In some way, he was filling up his self-esteem by being a hero for you. But then the abuse showed up and he just didn’t have any more left in him to be your hero again. Good for him that he left. He finally chose himself – something he should have been doing all along. The thing about what he might be feeling is, is resentful. People who have co-dependent tendencies end up burying all THEIR needs and feelings in order to make room for the person they are in service to. This builds anger and resentment and left unprocessed, they will start to sabotage connection. I wonder if he is connecting any of his behaviors to how he feels. Or is he mostly pointing the finger at you and your health challenges and abuse challenges? Is he taking 100% responsiblity for HIS choices in how things ended up the way they are right now? My guess is, probably not.
You guys had an unhealthy pattern that slowly became the demise of your relationship. You both contributed and participated 100% to this design. You both also had no idea what you were doing. You guys were doing the very best you could and it was enough…until it wasn’t. So now what? You are doing such great work. You have asked for help from several different experts, you are reading and learning about how to heal, you have recognized your patterns and are working with them and you have taken ownership of your side of things. You are taking ACTION. That is the best thing you could possibly do. The part where that also can become a problem is having a partner who doesn’t take action. He finally made a good choice by deciding to focus on himself for once, but if that is about as far as he goes with it, it’s not going to change his core issues that put in that position in the first place. He will come back to the relationship with the same patterns, same feelings, same behaviors and he will eventually feel unhappy AGAIN. It’s important for you to REALLY understand this…he was unhappy because of HIS choices and the baggage he carries inside, not because of you and how you handled your health issues or abuse. So now, he goes away and wants to focus on himself, but doesn’t do any internal work, healing, learning (like what you are doing) to create a different design for himself. He just creates space for himself and that’s it. Then let’s say he comes back. Your relationship will work really well for a while because YOU have shifted a lot. You are working on yourself so the patterns that used to exist, are changed. The love grows and the relationship grows for quite a while. And then he will start to feel unhappy again. Why? Because he never dealt with the ball of emotions he has learned to bury his entire life. You may get 10 more years out of him before he actually says something, but eventually, that ball of toxic emotions will get his attention again and cause him to take action again…he will most likely leave or do something to sabotage the connection.
This is how our pyches work. I know you love him. Love will not fix what he carries inside. What he carries inside makes him emotionally unavailable. If he doesn’t take action and step into his “baggage” then you will just be inviting him, along with that ball of toxic emotions, back into your life, only to end up where you are at right now. The ball of toxic emotions ALWAYS wins over love as long as a person doesn’t actively work with it. It will ALWAYS sabotage connection eventually. THIS is what caused him to leave you. THIS is not your responsiblity. THIS is what is making him feel unhappy…not you. This is HIS side of the equation. You have your own ball of toxic emotions that you are getting to know and understand right now. We all have it. It’s our “baggage” – our unprocessed feelings/stories/programs from our past. The relationships that work and stay healthy and nourished and together, are the ones where both people take ownership of it and work in the same direction.
With all of this being said, I understand you are still going to want him back into your life. You love him. You want to “fix” things with him. The part that I am really challenging with your mindset is the story you have created about this breakup. This whole time, you have this flavor of “It’s all my fault. If I just handled things differently, this wouldn’t have happened.” And so you are trying to do everything to “fix” your relationship – and it worked last time, so you are hoping it can work this time. The thing is, you may have gotten him back last time, but he didn’t stay did he? You “fixed” things last time, but here you are again. The relationship is still broken. So you are trying to “fix” things again, without really looking at what the underlying core issues are here. Why is your relationship broken? It’s not because of your health issues or your abuse issues. It’s not because he gave too much. It’s because of the stories you both carry deep inside about love and the ball of toxic emotions that are influencing how you show up in life. You are working on getting to know that part of yourself, he is not. This is why getting him back will only bring you full circle to where you are now…who knows how long it will take, but nonetheless, you will end up back here. The only fighting chance you guys have, is if BOTH of you really do the work.
I love him and believe in our relationship and truly don’t think our story is over. I know this is where you are at. I completely understand you want to keep fighting. It may feel like I am trying to convince you otherwise. What I am trying to do, is to get you to understand what you are actually fighting for. Love will blind people. All I want for you is to help you open up your eyes and get connected to the truth. The truth is, you are NOT responsible for his happiness. He was unhappy because of HIM, not you. You are not at “fault” for this breakup. You BOTH contributed plenty of dysfunctional patterns. There is nothing to “fix” here. The most powerful thing you can do is connect with yourself, your stories, your patterns and all the layers that are being exposed for you right now. Then…if he comes back, then at least you will have done everything you could have done to be the best partner possible.
For now, it’s just going to be a waiting game. Trust that he got your letter and he will respond when he is ready. He needs some time and space. Let him have it. There is no need to reach out. Your chances are much better if you let him come to you instead of trying to re-connect yourself. HE needs to make that decision to come back. Space is probably the best medicine for him right now. I know this is hard for you and it’s such a powerless feeling. I hope you are addressing this in your therapy and tapping sessions.
Heidi
September 7, 2022 at 12:54 am in reply to: Says he wants space, but giving mixed signals. Help! #34252Heidi G
ModeratorYou really are setting yourself up for success! Let me know how it goes with your tapping practitioner! Wow…the Emotion Code. I haven’t heard about that in over a decade. I forgot about that technique. Trauma runs EVERYBODY’S lives. Noboby really has a clue about it either. It’s subtle and affects so many areas of our lives. Most of it is stored on a subconscious level with hardly anyone understands. It influences all of our choices! Our relationships, our health, our finances, our careers…there are signs and symptoms ALL OVER that tell us when wounded energy is up front and center and in the driver’s seat. Most people don’t know about those signs or how to read the subconscious signals. It really should be a subject in school…how to learn about yourself and what to do. I love that you are connecting all of the dots though. You are waking up to a new you and becoming more and more empowered.
Is it ok to reach out to him after a week or so. Or should I check back in with you first. 2 weeks yesterday since the split and no contact so far. I want to invite you to consider something. You are wanting to get your guy back, but also possibly ignoring a red flag here. If he doesn’t reach out and doesn’t say anything about your letter or even acknowledge that you wrote something for him…then what do you think that says about him? If you step in and reach out and try to connect, wouldn’t you say that is more forcing YOUR agenda vs. really sitting back and seeing what kind of guy he is? If he doesn’t acknowledge your letter, then what? You really want to keep fighting for a guy who isn’t interested in connecting with you? And if you do want to fight for a guy like that, how come? This is the part where trauma/wounded energy can run your love life. Trauma energy chases “unavailable” men. Trauma energy gives in and has no standards. It’s your adult energy that says “I have standards and expect to be treated a certain way.” Trauma energy says “Who cares about those standards. I love him and want him back so I don’t have to keep feeling this emptiness and void. I want him back so I don’t have to feel this pain.” Adult energy says “I know this hurts, but it’s only temporary. We can heal. I deserve to be with a man who cannot go a single day without WANTING to connect with me. I want to be with a man who works through things WITH me. I expect my partner to communicate his needs to me.” Trauma energy says “Connection with him and fighting for him is all that matters.”
It’s wounded, little girl energy that chases after an emotionally unavailable man. Loving someone ALSO needs to include loving yourself. If loving someone is NOT a loving thing for YOU, a nourishing thing for YOU, then the love you feel for him is not balanced nor healthy and is more filled with wounded/trauma energy.
I’m not saying this is what is happening 100% for you, but I want to invite you to explore this. It will only make sense for you if you discover the CORE, TRUE energy that is sourcing your need to chase after him.
Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorWhat’s it like to dog sit? Most of the time, it’s pretty great. Lots of snuggles, lots of funny moments and lots of different outings. However, there are hard moments too. Emergency room visits, dogs that pee and mark in your house, dogs that are escape artists…those moments are always really hard. They don’t happen often, but it is part of the experience. It’s a lot of output though…for me. I’m not a normal dog sitter. I make sure every single day there is an adventure of some sort, so it’s time consuming and many times a 6am adventure outside because of the heat. Winter gets tough too, especially with the little guys and the fluffy guys that get tons of ice stuck in their fur. I also do not have a yard, so it’s extra walks each day. Having a house and yard would make it all so much easier.
It sounds like you had quite the adventure yourself. I’m so sorry it didn’t turn out the way you had expected. I’m still incredibly impressed with how you are figuring out how to navigate everything – in a foreign country! Really! You are learning so much and it’s amazing!
I’m not surprised that Bob went instead of you. There’s nothing to really think about it other than it’s what you can expect from him. You trust him less? I’m surprised you trust him at all.
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Eutona!
Thank you for being here and sharing your challenge and story with us. It’s so incredibly confusing, isn’t it? One day, everything is going smooth and easy and it’s wonderful – and then it’s not. I’m so glad you are here getting another opinion, because the first thing I want to say is RUN!
Is it toxic? Absolutely. First, it’s important for you to understand that he is controlling you…right from the beginning. To tell you that you can’t talk to other guys is waaaaaay overstepping and a HUGE red flag. To get upset that you don’t want a relationship – another HUGE red flag. To start to go hot and cold – a 3rd HUGE red flag. This guy has toxicity written all over him.
I understand you are coming out of a divorce and there is a lot you may not be able to see. I’ll go through this a bit more so you can learn what to look for when on a date so you can keep yourself safe.
First, THE MOST IMPORTANT thing you are always looking for in a person is how they handle stress. How do they treat you, themselves, and others when tension is high. Already this guy is showing you that when he is uncomfortable or insecure, he wants to control you. You end up heading into “defensive” mode trying to convince him that you are not doing what he thinks you are doing (talking to other men) – which you know that pattern well coming out of an abusive relationship, right? He also “guilt trips” you when you say you don’t want a relationship quite yet. That’s a very passive-aggressive way to control you so he can get what he wants. Then he goes hot / cold. This is also another passive-aggressive technique of connecting, then not connecting which is a way to “punish” you. I’m not saying this guy is aware of what he is doing. I don’t know, of course. But that doesn’t really matter. What matters is that he is showing you that he behaves like a child when he doesn’t get what he wants and he also carries the potential to be emotionally or physically abusive (his direct approach to telling you that you are not allowed to talk to other guys).
He is showing you that when he feels insecure, he gets controlling and passive-aggressive. It doesn’t matter how great the communication was or how great the connection was. Connection DOES NOT equal compatibility. He is showing you that he DOES NOT treat you with respect when HE is feeling insecure or hurt. His type of patterns show that he is not the type to forgive easily, if at all. Lung cancer energetically also has to do with a lot of anger/grief that is unprocessed.
Now…most importantly, it is so crucial for YOU to pay attention to how you are feeling around him. You have had to defend yourself MANY times already because he isn’t believing what you say. NO! That is not okay. The moment you start to feel defensive with anyone, it’s time to walk away. You don’t need to defend yourself or your values to anyone. It’s YOUR job to put a stop to that kind of “attack” by simply not participating in their insecurities about who want to be and how you want to live in this world. Being in an abusive relationship, you no doubt spent an incredible amount of time trying to keep the peace and keep him happy. You don’t have to do that anymore. It’s so important for you to really work on taking your power back. The moment a guy makes you feel anything close to what you are stepping out of, know that it’s a RED FLAG and pay super close attention to the dynamics happening.
Does this make sense? I know I came on strong with you. I hope that it’s okay. Your heart is sooooooo incredibly sacred and valuable. This guy has no clue how to take care of it. It’s still your choice, of course, how you would like to handle this. If you want to stay connected, then let’s talk about it more. If you feel clear that it’s time to cut off completely, I’m happy to help with how to do that as well. Let me know!
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Joselin,
I want to invite you to look at this idea you have of trying to do the “right” thing. There really is no such thing and an illusion. What is “right” is extremely relative. I can’t tell you how many times I followed the “rules” or “playbook” and did the “right” thing and did not get the results I wanted. I’ve also done the “wrong” thing a gazillion times and have received amazing results I couldn’t even imagine. Would you be willing to just let the idea of what is “right” go and trust that however things end up between you guys…you will be okay and it will be exactly what both of you need. If you can trust in that, then there is no need to be pensive. You can just be your authentic self – even if it’s messy. I mean think about it…your messiness brought you here. You have learned a lot and are growing like crazy! Wouldn’t you say that your messiness has brought you more gifts than not??? So take a breath and relax into being okay to just be yourself. Do whatever you feel inspired to do and you will be okay no matter what the result is. It’s all the process anyways. If the results trigger you or upset you, then it is just another opportunity to grow and heal, right? Remember, EVERYTHING is happening FOR you, not to you.
I will email you my coach’s info.
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorI still want him Heidi because we have done a lot for each other to have that relationship and I want to save it I understand you still want him. The thing is, your relationship and everything you guys had together, is in the past AND the design of your relationship didn’t work for him – hence him breaking up and moving on. I know you want to rekindle what you guys used to have, but that’s not the smartest thing anyways because what you used to have didn’t last. You are keeping alive in your heart something that worked for YOU, but didn’t work for him in the end. It worked for a while, but again…it didn’t last. So trying to rekindle something that didn’t work for HIM isn’t going to work. Why would he want to step back into something that wasn’t working for him? Why would he want to come back into a relationship where he felt “bored?” I don’t know if that was his only reason, but regardless, very few people are willing to get back together into a relationship that wasn’t working.
You say you want to “save” the relationship, but there is nothing to save. You are keeping your relationship with him alive in your heart, but it’s been over for quite a while now, so there is nothing to save as he is not connected at all and has asked you to leave him alone. This is the REALITY of the present moment. You are living in the past and it is torturing you and it has caused you to cross all kinds of boundaries with him and breaking his trust.
If you really want him back into your life, then the first step is really accepting that your relationship from the past is over. You are starting from ground zero. There is no connection, there is no trust, and there is nothing to “save” because nothing exists between you guys right now. When a guy feels like a girl cannot accept the present moment and feels like she keeps living in the past, the guy will start to put walls up and not want to have anything to do with her.
Like I said before, if you don’t know you can be happy without him and find love with another man, he will never want you back. As long as you keep holding onto him and not moving on with your life, all he will feel is you being clingy, desperate and needy. He will never find you attractive if you keep throwing yourself at him and begging to get back together. Men want a confident woman. Men want a woman who KNOWS she is valuable and knows she can find love elsewhere. Men are very attracted to women who have strong internally and have good self-esteem. That’s why I keep trying to tell you to stay away and really work on letting him go and move on from him. He may never want to come back to you and may end up choosing to live his life with another woman. Is that something you can allow him to have? When you move on, you allow yourself to have an open heart for a new experience…and that new experience could be him coming back to you down the road…or not. Who knows. Either way, he has no respect for you right now and the only way you can earn that respect back, is by respecting yourself first. You are so focused on getting him back, that you are completely disconnected from your power. You believe you cannot be happy and in love without him – so you essentially are making him your God. You are giving HIM all of your joy and happiness and power. You are not respecting yourself. When you take your power back and you let him go, you teach yourself how to be happy on your own, you learn how to source your own joy and not have it attached to a man, you become empowered and a VERY attractive woman to many men.
Do you understand how your approach to getting him back is actually harming the connection? Do you understand that he doesn’t respect you because of how desperate you are to get him back?
Heidi
September 6, 2022 at 7:35 pm in reply to: Says he wants space, but giving mixed signals. Help! #34244Heidi G
ModeratorOkay! Good job! Well…now it’s just a waiting game. He may respond or not, but the point of that letter was for you to express yourself and not have any expectations about his response. Now, your job is to keep working on yourself and learning/growing in the areas where you have limitations that impact your relationship.
What would be the first thing you would want to really improve about yourself as a partner / person?
Heidi
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