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Heidi G
ModeratorHi Ann,
My heart goes out to you. What you are going through is incredibly difficult for sure. You gave your heart to a man who isn’t able to support it and care for it the way it deserves.
It’s time to walk away. He is making a very clear choice for his family and his very challenging wife. Something inside of him is keeping him connected to his situation and it has nothing to do with you. This is his own battle and his own limiting beliefs that are keeping him connected to a chaotic situation. Remember, he is the one who chose her in the first place, so that say something about him and what he believes he deserves in life.
Now it’s time for you to care for you heart in the way it deserves and pull back. It’s time for you love yourself more and more and get grounded again. The truth is, he is not available anymore and hasn’t been for awhile. So you need to honor his choice and honor your needs to be connected with in a deep and meaningful way.
It’s going to be crazy hard being that you work together. You can stay friendly, but limit your conversations to just a few minutes and only deal with him as necessary. It’s simple what you say. “My heart is valuable and sacred and it’s time for me to start taking better care of it. You have clearly made your choice and I honor that however, it means I am not an option anymore. I need to let go and allow myself to heal. Please honor my choice.”
How does all of this make you feel?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Richa!
I am so sorry. I can feel your deep hurt and care for him. He obviously has some strong feelings for you as well and unfortunately it’s what caused him to run the other direction.
I want to help you understand something deeper about him. I completely understand there are strong feelings for him. It’s also important that when you are choosing to let someone into your very sacred heart space, you need to see them for ALL that they are. As wonderful as he is, he is also showing you he is not willing to face his fears. He is showing you he is not willing to face his challenges. He would rather run than to move on with his life. He would rather be in his low self-esteem by saying “you deserve someone better than me” than to risk again. This is a HUGE RED FLAG! A person who handles their life in this way is not going to make the best partner. When things get challenging, and they will, he most likely will run from the problem and let the fear take over. He most likely will be drawn to “victim” type of thinking vs. being an adult and taking charge of his challenges.
Is this the kind of guy you want to pursue a relationship with? Is this the kind of guy you want holding your heart?Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Lauren,
I’m so sorry for all that you are going through! It is beyond difficult!
This is a good learning experience. The moment you guys began talking for hours, that was the moment he began “cheating” on his girlfriend. It’s a very inappropriate relationship. If he is talking to you, more than his own girlfriend (whether or not sex was involved) he is emotionally cheating on her. She should be his best friend, not you. Your relationship with him is not based in integrity which makes it a pretty rocky road.
I don’t know what is keeping him involved with her, but it is clear he is choosing her. As long as you keep offering him that friendship and participating in fueling that connection, there is no reason for him to deal with the consequences of his choices. He gets to have the best of both worlds! I am wondering if part of him staying with his girlfriend is maybe he is getting a free place to stay and maybe he is getting fed as well?? I don’t know the situation, but I am also wondering how old he is? I’m wondering why he doesn’t have his own place? I think there are more factors involved in his decision beside the girlfriend….what do you think about that? He would be losing a lot more than girlfriend…he would be losing a free home maybe?
I wish there was some magical way to get him to choose you too. Life would be so much easier that way for sure! It’s time to step back and start to take care of yourself. Have the least amount of contact with him as possible. It doesn’t matter what he is saying…his actions are what matter in this situation. He needs to face his choices and you need to face your choice to get involved with a guy who is already taken. You both have stepped into a situation with a lot of painful consequences and now it’s come to a point where they have to be dealt with.
And just something for you to think about as well…if he is choosing to make you his best friend and get intimate with you and cheat on his girlfriend and not be honest with himself or her….what makes you think he wouldn’t do the same to you? If he is unhappy in his relationship, he needs to be HONEST about that with her and either work through it or leave…instead he is choosing to get his needs met behind her back…that is character flaw which means he likely doesn’t face challenges in life very well. He would rather lie and be dishonest than to be authentic and live with integrity. I know you have strong feelings for him, but it is also something to consider when really giving your heart to someone.
Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Ruta!
Welcome! Thank you for sharing your struggles and questions.
I’m a bit confused. Are you currently just friends and see each other a lot? Or are you acting like friends with benefits? I just need a little more explanation as to how you both are interacting with each other at the moment.
Has he ever mentioned why he is not wanting to give it another try? It sounds like you guys hang out quite a bit, so he would know the changes you have made in your life and how things would be different. So I’m wondering what is stopping him. How old are the both of you? How long have you known each other / dated? Does he have a tendency to hold onto things from the past? Does he tend to hold grudges at all? Would you say he is a forgiving person?
It sounds like you are doing a really good job of being a good partner for him. I know you are appreciating him and showing him respect…would you say he agrees? Do you know if that is how he feels around you?
I know it’s a lot of questions! Share whatever you feel comfortable with….
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorWow! Your job definitely is quite diverse! It sounds fascinating!!! So not the kind of stuff that stimulates my mind, but I can see with the engineering background that you have, it would be perfect! Do you ever find that men are intimidated by your intellect at all? Just curious…
When I say you are taking things in stride, it means you are going with the flow really well. Make sense?
As far as understanding his behavior….maybe I can explain it like this. Let’s look at food for example. You may know that the piece of chocolate cake is not good for you. But you know it tastes soooo good! So you have a piece, telling yourself you will just have one piece and that’s it! So you enjoy completely! But you also tell yourself you aren’t going to have anymore, so you put away the cake. Then you WANT another piece and you compromise again and have another piece….and so on. The chocolate cake is representing what you want, but your mind is screaming “Be careful! You are going to get fat! It’s not good for you!” but your needs are so strong. That chocolate cake makes you feel pure and utter pleasure! So that’s where the split is….you know you should limit your intake of chocolate cake and sometimes you can resist…but other times (especially when pleasure is low in your life) you will want the chocolate cake more. Does this make sense??? haha!
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHI Shay,
I’m glad to hear you are connecting to your strength! I want to be clear about something though…have hurt feelings and being messy about a breakup IS strong. Strength means being okay having all of your emotions, but not letting them control you. Meaning, it’s okay to be mad, hurt, angry and depressed. It takes strength to FEEL all of those. Shoving those aside and burying your emotions is what weakness is. It means someone doesn’t have the ability to feel what is real for them, so they bury it. It is HOW you handle those emotional reactions that you want to role model to your daughters. Be angry AND choose forgiveness. Be sad AND send him good vibes. Be depressed AND nurture your heart in loving ways. It’s HOW we respond to stress and emotions that matters. Your feelings are here because you cared and you loved. You got burned, but if you bury these emotions, if you blame him….then you lead yourself down the path towards resentment and building walls around your heart…which will only make you less available for the next guy. Don’t EVER give any man or person THAT much power to ruin your experiences in your future. Taking control means you decide to have your emotions and feelings, but you process them in a healthy way so your spirit stays free of low, heavy, dense emotions.
Of course you are angry. Process it! Anger is a secondary emotion. Hurt is the primary emotion under anger. When I’m angry, I take a tennis racket to a pillow, I put on an angry song and dance like I’m angry, I pin up a picture I drew of the person I am mad at and throw a few dozen eggs at it., I will yell into a pillow….the idea is to transform the energy of anger into something. Keep it moving…don’t let it sit and stagnate and take over your very precious heart.
I would suggest finding another way to get help moving. It really would be best to stay as far away from him as possible, especially when you are still hurting. It would be soooo easy to get drawn back into him and the love you feel and you get injured all over again. I always advise people to STAY AWAY and allow your heart to heal….THEN you are more safe to run into them again and be okay without your heart getting injured all over again. It’s torture!
Is there another way to get help?
Heidi
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Tracey.
Heidi G
ModeratorWow Leyla!!! This is amazing! Of course you feel safe with him! You guys have a lot of history together and have kept in touch all of these years. He sounds very invested in you and open to seeing where everything goes. Perfect!
Tell me what you like about him… Tell me what some of his limitations are… Tell me how you feel when you are around him….
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Shay,
It makes it triple hard seeing your kids hurt. The BIGGEST gift you can give them, is to love them and yourself through this loss. Loss is a part of life. How we handle that loss is really important. Teaching them that people will come and go in our lives many times over. Teaching them to love themselves through the loss, not get resentful or bitter, always forgive the person who leaves and send them good energy. This is soooooo important to learn and this is a PERFECT time to start teaching them that. It is a bummer your kids don’t have a male role model. That means they will have to figure out how to survive anyways. Like Kanya said….it’s better he leaves once instead of several times. That kind of role modeling is much more devastating and causes a lot of mistrust. It’s important for you to protect them from that…and yourself. Know that they will be okay because you are okay. Your kids are watching you and listening to you with how you handle this. They need to hear you talk kindness and forgiveness towards him. They need to know that you are hurt, but you are loving yourself through this and that even though he walked away, it doesn’t define your self worth. IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT that he walked away. That is on him! You made a mistake…so what! It’s not the last time you make a mistake. You did not make him walk away, especially in this manner. That is HIS CHOICE and you have nothing to do with that. Forgive yourself for being human, love yourself for your ability to be resilient and forgive him for his limitations as well. Forgiveness does not mean forget though. You need to remember how he is handling this, as he will most likely do it again.
I would keep staying away until it’s time to move. It will help him know that you are not going to crawl back to him. Give yourself some time to heal a bit and get your emotions under control. If you see him or talk to him and get all emotional about everything, it most likely will shut him down and make him not want to be around you. So take care of yourself over the next few weeks and then contact him about moving when it’s time.
How does that approach feel for you?
Heidi
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Tracey.
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Leyla,
It sounds like you are moving into a place of acceptance with this. I’m so sorry about your family emergency! Hopefully everything is okay! Did he even ask about it later or check in on you and make sure everything was okay??
I’m glad you felt some reprieve from telling him the truth about the miscarriage. I know how important that can be. You really have tried to do what you can, but like Kanya said….he needs to make some effort. You deserve to feel like you are wanted and sought after, so I think it’s a good idea to let go of the idea of him. He isn’t valuing you the way you need and that’s okay.
Tell me more about this friend of your that is moving to the area???
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Emilie!
It’s not really weird that he is connective and then not. That is typical of a guy who isn’t emotionally available…especially if they have feelings for a gal. He is split. He likes you and is attracted to you, but also not ready for a relationship. So he will connect and enjoy and then the part that isn’t ready for anything, will step in and “cool” him down and keep reminding him how he isn’t ready. Or….maybe this is how he is anyways….I don’t know. I do know enough to know that guys who are emotionally unavailable tend to show up and connect really well, then not. I’m not surprised. The more he gets to know you, the more he may pull away, because he is trying not to get hooked.
It sounds like you are taking it in stride though.
Your job sounds really interesting and really hard. I used to have to write grant requests as part of a job I had once…I hated it! Paperwork is sooooo not my thing! Do you like what you do? How did you end up in that job??
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHow did it goooo???? I’m dying to know how your date went with him!!! Update us soon!
April 12, 2019 at 2:55 am in reply to: trying to get my ex back he broke up with me asked are we friends now ? #19998Heidi G
ModeratorHi Laura,
Can you share a little more information? How have you guys been communicating? Is there flirting? Is there an energy between you guys or does it seem very friend – like?
How long were you together? What caused you guys to break up? How long were you broken up?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Michelle,
Thank you for being here and sharing your story. This is a tough situation. The main red flag here is that he is still going through a bad divorce. It’s important to stay away from people in that situation. There are A LOT of emotions to work through, which means they are not really emotionally available. He is making a good decision by being honest with you and saying he isn’t ready. I know you have feelings for him, but I think in this situation, listening to him and honoring what he needs right now (which is to not date or be in a relationship) is important. Give him some time. Let go of the idea of him as a partner and decide that friendship would be a good thing. The best relationship are built on friendship….maybe down the road something could happen.
Either way….he is not available which means your heart would eventually be broken if you kept trying to pull him into a situation he is not ready for….
Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHow is everything going?? Any date set up yet? What do you do for work btw?
I keep waiting for updates from you, because you have such good stuff going on!
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHello!
Thanks for more information. Can you think of anything that may have happened to make him disconnect? Something you said? Something he said? Did you actually meet this guy in person? You said there was a lot of phone calls, so I’m wondering how many dates you have actually been on with him. How did you meet him?
I want to slow you down quite a bit. Using the word “love” is pretty intense. What makes you feel this way after just knowing him a short time. And he seems to not have any interest anymore. You barely know him. I’m wondering if he is playing some sort of game. Did he ever tell you how he feels about you?
I’m so sorry you are going through this. It hurts! What are you doing to take care of yourself right now? I would hate for you to lose your valuable time and energy while waiting for his phone call. Do you have friends that can help you through this? Are you finding ways to help you get through this?
Heidi
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