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March 28, 2025 at 6:04 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38395
Heidi G
ModeratorHey there! No worries about your response. I get it! Plus, it’s super tough being on your phone. I NEVER respond from my phone. There is no way I would ever have the patience to offer a thorough response on my phone.
He’s scared of being hurt again. I’m not sure if I should just back off or just stay where I am. Of course he is. We ALL are. And there are MANY layers where fear lives. So even if you do get past this first level of fear, he will reach another one and will be faced again with choosing to move forward or not. You will as well. It’s normal and to be expected.
I’m kind of in a place where I’ll be fine if he decides he needs time and I need to back off and I’ll be fine if he decides he wants to move forward. It seems to me that either way I’ll be okay. I want to invite you into saying this with more truth. First, do you really want to be “fine?” It’s a word we use that is actually quite dense and full of meaning and emotion – usually more dense and heavy emotion. How about you instead say “If he decides to separate, it will hurt AND I will be okay. If he decides to move forward, I will be excited for many more adventures.” Would this be more accurate?
I might have been a little too forthcoming with him, he kind of just disappeared. At first I was a little worried and then I was like whatever ends up happening, oh well. I’ve got to be authentically me. I’m curious…what does this mean? What did you say that might have caused him to disconnect?
It seems like you both are having a lot of deeper conversations. I wouldn’t be surprised considering your personality (I’m the same way), but I also want to make sure that you both are having light, fun conversations too. Yes? No?
Things have gotten better, but I honestly might have screwed them up with him. It’s okay though if I did, he’s probably not ready for a relationship yet anyway. He is not ready for a relationship. This is something you have known since the beginning. However, I wouldn’t say you screwed anything up. I want to point out the languaging you are using, as it is revealing more of the subconscious stories that are running in your system. What does this particular story tell you about yourself? The more you can become super sensitive to how you explain things and what they mean beneath the surface, the more skilled you will be at recognizing it in others – and THAT is a super strong skill to have, as it will save you a TON of time, it will help you more intelligently know who to allow into your world and help you see many of the hidden, subtle signs they are throwing out about what lives in their subconscious.
And also, I want to invite you into viewing life a bit differently. I personally like to view ALL my decisions as moments of a long adventure. There is no such thing as a “wrong” or “right” decision….just a decision that will lead me onto the next parts of my adventure – both positive and negative. So instead of doubting your choice to go back to school, 100% embrace it. You made the decision and so for TODAY, it’s still what you are deciding to do…until it isn’t. That’s it. I went to grad school and got all the way to end and never completed my comp exam and thesis…for many reasons. So I quit. I’ve never done anything like that in my life. It still irks me a bit, because I would love to have a graduate degree and completed the whole thing, but even if you look at the core of that….it’s only because of my ego. Not having my MA would not change a darn thing in my life, except that I would establish more creditability in the eyes of strangers. The core truth is, with or without my MA, I am exactly where I’m supposed to be. So TRUST yourself. That doubt you carry impacts you in MANY ways you don’t even realize. Pay more attention to it. When it creeps in, it’s a moment for you to practice re-aligning with your choice, no matter what it is.
Heidi
March 26, 2025 at 12:23 am in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38392Heidi G
ModeratorSo I’m curious…when you say that he is wanting to be back on his healing journey, what does that mean exactly? What kinds of things is he actively doing to help himself “heal.” Have you ever asked him what “healing” means to him? What does he think healing is? That might be an interesting conversation.
The way you put things has been immensely helpful for me. I can’t even begin to tell you how much that makes my heart sing. You are empowered again, which is exactly the place I wanted to guide you back to. No matter the decisions you make, coming from a grounded and empowered place will produce the highest outcomes. I’m proud of you! You obviously have done a lot of work prior to our conversation that would allow you to align with yourself so quickly.
The strength we build up around what marks us is up to us, because if we keep opening the wound, not only does it get bigger, but the bark won’t grow around it as easily, and it takes more to strengthen the trunk in that particular spot. Beautiful analogy!!! I did not know that about trees!
In asking myself if it’s better for me that he is in my life, for now the answer is yes, it is better for me.In asking myself would I be better without him, the answer is no, because right now he makes me stronger. Fantastic! You sound very clear about this. As long as your answer continues to be an INSTANT yes, with NO hesitation, then you are good to go!
I have been through so much, and I was never really taught how to be a mom, housewife, wife, or any of that, so I made mistakes, but that’s okay because there was a lesson in everything. My heart goes out to you. I know the strength that is required to face what your system buried, in order to protect you. You did it though! I love that you worked with all of it and are continuing to move forward. It’s very obvious to me, that you have an internal strength that only comes from facing our greatest fears. It’s a forever journey, BUT now you know you are fully capable of facing anything that is thrown your way. That is not something most people can say.Yes! I LOVE LOVE LOVE human design and enneagram especially. I know the MBTI as well, but I find the other modalities to be much more expansive and much more layered and dynamic, involving aspects that cannot be determined by filling out a questionnaire.
My first love, he’s still in there, just pretty deep. Maybe these are just memories in my heart, I am not sure. Yes! Exactly! Here my tree analogy….romantic love (or any type of love for that matter) is like a tree. You are the tree and you will grow a branch and it will alive, bearing fruits and leaves. Then…the nutrient supply is cut off from that branch from things end. The branch never falls off and separates from you, it’s still there, it’s just not “alive” in the romantic sense where it is producing life, but it is ALWAYS a part of you. It’s just playing a different role in your life while another branch grows and flourishes.
Like I said, even when my intuition is telling me something, I still want to see the good in people and I do tend to positive project. I am leaning so much more on following my instincts. Here is a little trick of the trade I always use. It has NEVER once failed me. It’s about pattern recognition. Once is just once. 2x is a weak pattern. 3x is a strong pattern. Once it hits the “strong pattern” category, KNOW that it’s something that is built into their system. It will most likely ALWAYS be a pattern you will have to deal with, unless someone REALLY digs in deep and works on shifting whatever is causing that pattern. This has gotten me out of MANY messes, because I – like you – tend to give a lot of leeway for behavior. This allows me to be much more objective to help me counter any emotions that might be keeping me in my blind spot. Hope this helps! Let me know if you need me to explain this further!
Holy smokes! Now that is a serious story! I am soooooo so sorry that you had to go through all of that with your family. You really have been through it! Of course your trust in people was ruined. You have come sooooo far and you have kept fighting. Wowowowow! So many people would have given up and become completely angry and bitter, but you didn’t. You are choosing to love again. You are choosing to have new experiences. You are choosing to grow and learn. That says so much about you!!! Thank you for sharing all of that. I know it was just the tip of the iceberg, but it definitely brought me a greater understanding.
Heidi
March 22, 2025 at 11:28 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38390Heidi G
ModeratorLol! Oh goodness. I absolutely have done that several times where I write and then I submit and it didn’t go through. It’s sooooo frustrating and just takes the wind out of your sails! Such a bummer!
Thank you for letting me know you are still here.
It’s making more sense as to why you 2 are taking a journey together. You are a match in many ways. Thank you for sharing all of that.
Please know I am not insinuating that he will cheat. I was just speaking generally in that every person is capable of things they never think they would be capable of. The potential is always there, so I like to encourage people to stay grounded in reality. Instead of saying “He has my trust that he won’t cheat” you say “I trust that no matter the decisions he makes in his life, even if they break me and sabotage the relationship, I TRUST MYSELF.” Keep bringing your trust back to yourself instead of “trusting” that he is going to behave or not behave in specific ways for the health of the relationship. That is an illusion and NOT where trust belongs.
Thoughts on this?
Looking forward to more of your thoughts!
Heidi
March 20, 2025 at 3:02 am in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38387Heidi G
ModeratorHoly smokes I wrote A LOT! I had no idea! Haha!
March 20, 2025 at 3:01 am in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38386Heidi G
ModeratorHi Lori! Okay….let’s keep deep diving!!!
Let’s start with why I chose my boyfriend. I am not entirely sure, it was something about him, but probably one of the biggest things was that he respected me. Of all the people I went out on dates with, he was honest about who he was and where he was in his life, and when I was very clear that I wanted to build a friendship before jumping into bed, he didn’t blink. Let’s talk about this a bit. I’m just going to share some very subtle nuances that I am seeing in what you are saying. I am pointing them out only because I know you are wanting to know and understand yourself. The most important aspect to know about yourself is your subconscious. Your subconscious has a very very subtle language to it and 99% of people miss it in themselves and others. I am super familiar with the language of the subconscious. My training began as a child actually…I somehow was able to sense, or pay attention to the subtleties of those around me – but for the sole purpose of trying to figure out what to expect so I could brace myself for what was coming. I didn’t understand the survival mechanisms I was building at the time, but it became a game for me. It still is to this day actually. LOL. So to begin, it’s important to understand that OVER 80% of what we think, feel, decide, behave comes from the subconscious. So…if you just pay attention to your choices, your words, your actions, you can start to see the deeper reasoning behind them and make the subconscious information come to the surface. So…you said one of the biggest reasons you chose him was because he respected you. This is your subconscious talking to you. This is a story you have built into your cells that you are operating from. Here’s the thing Lisa. Respect needs to be a given, NOT a reason to choose someone. It’s a quality that should be required and not a quality to be choosing. Because you grew up with NOT being respected, a story in your child mind got created and so when a guy respects you, it’s a SUPER BIG DEAL. But like I said before, if every single guy was respectful towards you, if you grew up being respected, then you would not choose this guy because he was respectful. Does this make sense? So it’s your little girl energy influencing this choice, not your adult. So your subconscious is exposing a story that lives within your system and hasn’t been resolved.
A healthy reason to choose someone is for their UNIQUE characteristics….the qualities that make them, them. Respectful is a quality that MANY people embody, so him being respectful is NOT unique. It may feel like that to you personally, but I can tell you I have been on hundreds and hundreds of dates over 3 decades. The majority of the guys were respectful. BUT…because this is an area of scarcity for you, to come across a guy who is treating you with respect is a BIG deal. And that is absolutely normal. Your job is just to notice yourself. Notice the deeper reasons behind your choices. Notice the stories you have running in your system. Notice what is driving you. This is how you get to know what lives in the depths of your being. It’s fascinating!!! And rule #1…NO JUDGMENT. Just noticing. Make sense?
he never once disrespected my values, beliefs, views, time, or body. I think overall, that was what put me in the headspace to enter into a committed relationship with him. Again, these are not reasons to want to be with someone in a committed relationship. You are experiencing just the baseline here as to how you should be treated. He definitely checks those boxes, but if that is all it takes for you to offer the sacred space of your time and energy and heart, then we need to take a look at your standards. Think about this…if you were in the desert and without water for a week and someone came to you and offered you a glass of water, you would absolutely take it without question. You would be in sooooooo much gratitude for him showing up and offering you kindness. Who wouldn’t drink that water? The problem is, you are dying of thirst that you are not of right mind to actually look at the water. Because if you stopped and looked, you would see there is mold in it…and it will eventually make you sick. I’m not saying this current guy is offering you moldy water. I’m just explaining the concept that when we are in scarcity of certain aspects in our lives because we grew up without it…we become STARVING for those specific things we missed and desperately needed for healthy development. So the goal here is….to do enough healing on ourselves and learn how to source ourselves with what we didn’t get growing up – and then we aren’t dying for some water….someone can offer you water, but instead of taking it right away, you have healthy discernment. And Lori, know that even if you know you are drinking toxic water, it doesn’t mean you still won’t drink it. Lord knows I have stepped into a gazillion situations knowing exactly what I was stepping into and how it would turn out – it was just showing me how much I needed that water – and how I needed to keep working to find my own source of water so I wouldn’t make those choices anymore. Like I have already said…it’s a lifelong journey. So while I am pointing this out, I hope you are having compassion for yourself as well. When you discover these nuances, know they are there because your little girls needed attention that she never got and it’s your job today, to make sure you become the parent that you needed all along. YOU parenting her, YOU respecting her, YOU having compassion for her, YOU protecting her…that is your water. That is how you nourish yourself. Does this make sense? It’s a pretty complicated topic, so hopefully I am explaining it well.
One thing I have learned about him is that he is just as loyal as me, so that part believe it or not worried me a bit. This might sound crazy, but shortly after his heart attack I really wondered if we were in the right place, what if because both of us are as loyal as the other we get stuck, what if neither one of use wants to let go if we have to let go? I don’t mean for this to sound nutty, but my brain literally never stops. I did end up asking him about this and we ended up having a very good conversation about it. You are a seeker. You want to be as awake and aware as possible, so you HAVE to ask questions and explore all the options. It’s part of how you stay safe and avoid making the same mistakes. There is nothing crazy about it. Believe me, my brain never turns off either, but the more I did the deep healing work, the more that part calmed down for me.
As far as being loyal, I just want to pop your bubble here. Here is the highest level of truth. Anyone can do or be anything. With the exact right mixture of something, he could absolutely cheat….and so could you. No one is beyond infidelity, abuse, or even something like murder. Every single one of us carries darkness within us. It’s just part of being human. I say this because I am insanely loyal and have studies love and relationships for over 3 decades. Have I cheated? Yep. I was shocked! Never in a gazillion years did I ever think I was capable, but because I was ignoring some of my needs, mixed with a few other things, I cheated. It was a huge wake up call for me and I’m glad it happened. It helped me first of all understand that I was capable. And that meant that I cannot afford to ignore what I was ignoring. So…it’s important to understand that the darkness can absolutely be activated, even in the best of us and cause us to do things we are completely against….things entirely out of our character. It’s an important truth to embrace about people because you are creating a sense of safety with him that is not a guarantee, but you are believing it is. The healthiest way to approach safety and trust is within yourself. So of course you want to find someone who has integrity AND you can build trust and safety with him over time, BUT ultimately you also know that can be broken in an instant, but that’s okay because you have trust and safety within yourself. Trust in yourself means “No matter what he says or does, I will be okay. I am resilient. I am resourceful. I know how to heal. I know how to become more because of the pain. I know how to find the gifts and beauty of any painful moment. I will be okay.” Having this type of unshakable trust with yourself is true resilience. This is what I have developed for myself, so that when I go out into the world, people get to be themselves – mistakes and all – and although their choices will hurt sometimes – I know how to heal, through and through.
It’s important to operate from the highest level of truths about humanity, so that you don’t create expectations around people that are not healthy. To expect that he will never cheat or that you will never cheat, is not a realistic expectation. Instead you look for someone who has high integrity in all areas of their life so you set yourself up for success and then drop the expectation. Life is just going to unfold however it does and you are strong enough to trust that you are being held and supported and taken care of no matter what happens. Does this make sense?
AS you write me more and I reflect more, I see more and I understand more. I spent the night with my boyfriend last night and I can’t explain it, but he’s different. He touched me in more loving ways, and I had to tell him (especially after everything I have been reading, I guess I learned it’s important to tell him) that I really liked it when he touched me like that. I am not talking sexually here when I am talking about touching, but instead of just giving me buddy taps on my leg or arm, he was just so much more sensual with his touch, and his kisses had so much more feeling to them, and massively increased in volume. I love hearing this. It’s so nourishing to your beautiful heart and I love that you are getting to experience this!!! YEEEES!!!! MORE PLEASE!!! 🙂
I wish I could help him, but it’s something he will have to deal with on his own. That being said, I am going to stand by him as he heals. I’m going to pop a bubble here again. He is NOT healing through and through. Unless he does some type of active work on himself – working with an expert – he is not healing the core wounding. Just like the analogy I used before, his skin will heal and close up the wound, so the pain is less, but if he doesn’t debris his wound, the infection will show up eventually. He IS healing on a certain level, but it’s only skin deep type of healing and you will see this over time. The more he falls in love and bonds to you, the more you will see the infections seeping out in his choices and behaviors. Again, I’m not saying at all you shouldn’t give this a chance. I’m just encouraging you to move forward with OPEN EYES and know what you are saying yes to. All the subconscious signals he is giving you, from everything you have explained, he absolutely has some big infections going on. And there is nothing wrong with that. I have emotional infections too. The difference is, I am aware of them and I have treatment protocols when they get activated. He does not and that makes him limited in his ability to be emotionally available to anyone. You will keep hitting walls with this guy. You are getting past one right now as you are experiencing right now, but there are much deeper and thicker walls that will you never get past. He has to do the deeper work himself first.
Even though at first she only had supervised visits when she asked me to come over to help her with something three things pushed me to do so. 1) the bible says to honor your mother and your father. 2) I feared if I didn’t show up the next time I did she would be very mad at me. 3) I still wanted her to love me, so bad. Of course! This is very normal and to be expected. You were getting love from her anywhere you could get it. And I do know that verse in the Bible, but it can also be interpreted differently. What does it actually mean to “honor?” That can be many different things and maybe something to explore for the purposes of working with your younger self. I absolutely honor my parents, but absolutely will never be in relationship with my father again. How do I honor him? I forgave him. I send him love energetically. I pray for him. To me…I am honoring him in the highest possible way. Personally, it just doesn’t make sense to me to “honor” a parent while dishonoring myself. That is not what the message was teaching. So I love and honor myself AND honor my father by letting go of the negate, dark emotions and to me…that is the highest possible interpretation. Just something to think about and consider.
I was so lost, and I really needed to find who I was and why I was so willing to forgive, move on, be there for the people I loved, even when I knew they wouldn’t be there for me. Do you still feel this way?
I blamed myself for the failed marriage for many many years, if not slightly still. Would you be willing to take responsibility but remove the energy of “blame” from the equation? Yes, you were part of the reason, but when you add the energy of blame to the equation, you are adding a toxic energy – judgment. There is no one to blame here. Did you do the best you could? Yep. So did he. AND…the limitations that lived within both of you were big enough and destructive enough that it was time to end. It’s truly that simple. No blame. Just normal, human woundedness playing its part.
I, myself, do not have high emotional intelligence, but I have extremely good intuition and about 97.8% of the time my intuition is right, even though I originally tried to explain away the feeling, it always ends up being right, so I am leaning into trusting my intuition more. Whaaaaaat??? What do you think emotional intelligence is??? You absolutely are on the higher end of emotional intelligence and continuing to expand that. Your intuition is absolutely part of that!
This time my intuition is telling me that he is a good guy and that I should be patient and stay, but I am trying to talk myself out of that. I know there is a lot of past trauma for me and I didn’t want that to be the driving factor in my decision, because if it was I would choose “leave” every time probably. I want to be strong enough to build something that will last the rest of my life or his Time to pop another bubble. DO NOT…I repeat DO NOT build something for the rest of your life. This is on the same level of illusion that he is loyal. Because you are trying to build a “forever” type of connection, it’s putting a TON of pressure on him and the relationship. There is no such thing as forever. Yes, it could be something you and him end up experiencing, but even if you do EVERYTHING right, it DOES NOT guarantee anything. Let that idea go. Instead, focus on TODAY. Is he right for you today? Yes or no? THAT IS IT!!! Love is a DAILY CHOICE. I have known couples who have been together for 30 years and decided to divorce, because the connection ran its course. I have known couples together for 50 years and would not wish that type of connection on anyone because it’s just dead. Your job, ALWAYS, is keep yourself nourished, balanced, joyful, empowered, and healthy. This guy might be an amazing partner to support that for a short period of time, many years, or until the very end. None of that matters. What matters is the you choose someone who lights you up, supports your growth, sees the light and dark within you and is able to accept it and it’s a relationship you truly love being in TODAY. And also, we ALL have trauma always. The idea is to find someone who knows how to work through their own traumas, so they don’t end up leaking it all over you and vice versa. You are going to get triggered and deeply hurt and so is he. It’s inevitable the longer you are together. Those are beautiful moments of growth AS LONG AS you BOTH BOTH BOTH have the skillset to work those triggers within. You cannot be the only one who has the skillset and interest in knowing yourself and expect that to carry the relationship long term. I mean I have seen women do that…but I will also tell you that the kind of love you want to experience will NEVER come to fruition if you are the only one on that journey.
I didn’t really realize how deep it went, and I had no idea it would turn into a conversation like this, but I have gotten so much out of it, and I am more than appreciative of you! Wow! This truly fed my heart. Thank you for saying this!!! I absolutely love coming across someone who wants to go deep, because that is my specialty. Every blue moon someone like you will show up on this forum, so you are absolutely and unequivocally a breath of fresh air for me!
because something is said, and it’s easy to go, “please don’t do that, Charlie used to do that, and it really bothers me.” But, overall, I try not to dwell on things from the past relationships. I have always said that each man I meet is his own person and what the previous men have done to me have nothing to do with him. I personally start every relationship with commitment, trust, and respect. This is absolutely a beautiful idea! The reality is though, it’s not possible. We ALL are constantly experiencing others with the lens that was created from our past. So you even saying, Please don’t do that because Charlie used to do that…is you overlaying your past into the present moment. I also want to suggest a different way to say. When you say “don’t do this because Charlie used to do this and bothers me” it actually is not teaching your current guy anything about you. Keep Charlie out of this, because he has nothing to do with your reaction. Charlie could do the same exact thing to another woman and it wouldn’t phase her, so this reaction you are having is specific to you. So instead, teach your current guy about you. You say “Hey listen…I just wanted to let you know that when you do _____________________it causes me to feel like _________________ because ________________” So instead of telling him what he is NOT allowed to do (which is mothering) you instead inform him how his choice or behavior affects you and then HIM make the choice to continue doing it or not. This empowers him vs. just doing what you tell him to do.
Here is a real example. “So Steven….I need to let you know that when make fun of me, I end up shutting down and wanting to disconnect. I was teased a lot as a kid in grade school, so I admit that this is an area I am extra sensitive. I know you don’t want me to shut down and pull away, so I thought I’d let you know how to best avoid that.” Do you see how this empowers the man to make a change by activating his understanding and compassion and care for you? When you simply say “don’t do this” it has no meaning and you again, you are treating him like you would a child – giving him choice by equipping him with information on which choice he wants to make – that is treating him like an adult. Does this make sense?
I know he still holds a space in his heart for her, but being honest, don’t we all hold a space in our heart for previous relationships, whether it’s hurt, care, or possibly still love? I honestly just want to know if there is anything I should be doing differently to get his heart to open up more for me? But, then again, it seems to be happening naturally, so maybe I will just keep taking it day by day. No…we don’t hold space in our hearts from previous relationships…not in the way that your guy is doing. I absolutely have ZERO romantic feelings for my past boyfriends. Yes, I love and care for them, but in a friendly way – in a way that DOES NOT get in the way of any current experience I want to have. There is 100% complete closure so my heart is 100% available. As far as doing anything differently to “get his heart to open up more for me” is another subconscious pattern coming up. This is your little girl energy talking here. Your little girl is wanting to know how she has to behave or what she can do for her mom/boyfriend so she can get love. The higher level truth is absolutely NOTHING. If you just being yourself is not enough for this guy to open his heart to you, then that is on him, NOT YOU. I sure as heck DO NOT want to spend ANY of my time trying to get someone to open up to me. All that tells me is that he is carrying around A LOT of fear and that fear is controlling him and his level of comfort with vulnerability and connection. If you are experiencing that already, imagine what is next. Because what you are experiencing today is the least of the walls you will be facing with him. I know he is opening up as of this past week and that is fantastic! I’m not saying you need to cut this off. Again…all I am saying is for you to be realistic and walk into this with eyes OPEN. I think that you and this guy are on a journey together and there is great potential for a lot of learning and growing. I’m just trying to pop your fantasy bubbles and get you really grounded in truths and that will set you up with the most success moving forward – because you will be grounded more in reality vs. the “forever, loyal, respect” fantasy you have built from your subconscious.
I actually received help without negating it! YAYAYAYAYAYAYA! Tell me all about it! How did it feel? What was your reaction inside when you received the help?
So, narcissistic they might have been, but, they hid it long enough to gain my submission, until they didn’t. So looking back, are you able to see their narcissism? It’s pretty impossible to hide narcissism. It’s more about how well someone is able to pick up on the subtleties of the more nuanced versions of narcissism. So this is great practice for you. Looking back, what are some of the signs you may have missed early on, that would have told you they were narcissistic?
if I am willing to let him heal on his own, in his own time, would it be easier for him to without me? That I am not sure about This is not a question that serves you or helps you, because there is no way to know the answer. AND…here is another subconscious story leaking out. This is your co-dependent little girl again. You are asking about HIS well being. Is it better for HIM that I am in his life or not? Instead…you need to be asking….Is it better for ME that he is in my life or not. Let HIM decide for himself. You DO NOT need to caretake him. Again, you are mothering him. You take care of you and let him take care of him. If he wants or needs something different, that is HIS job to let you know and it’s not YOUR job to figure that out for him. So your subconscious co-dependent little girl is trying to find a way to be or not to be in order to make him as happy as possible…here again, the pattern your mom set up for you.
And I just want to say….I am sooo so sorry for what you had to survive. There is soooo much loss and rejection that filled every single day of growing up. I’m glad that your father eventually put his foot down. Even though so much damage had already been done, he still did it – which gave you the experience of your father fighting for you. That has more of an impact than you realize. There is a lot he needs to be forgiven for and at the very same time, he rescued you. It’s a very interesting mixture and one I have had to deal with as well. It’s an interesting internal dynamic for sure.
Heidi
March 19, 2025 at 7:46 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38383Heidi G
ModeratorOh! By the way….I LOVE what you do for work. It sounds fabulous! I currently am creating my business to go online. I’ve studied online marketing etc. for over 2 decades from different experts over the years and it’s incredibly helpful. You are helping people make their dreams come true…you are helping people take what is within them, and bring it out into the world. That is such an important and incredibly impactful role you are playing. It’s perfect for you! I’m curious what the “pivot” is that got you excited to step back in.
And I love your business coach helping you connect to the co-dependent side of yourself that was leading you into some unhealthy patterns.
Here is how I define co-dependence: meeting the needs of others at the expense of yourself.
Narcissism: meeting the needs of yourself, at the expense of others.Do you see how co-dependents and narcissists actually make a really great match? As long as the co-dependent is willing to stay in that role, a relationship can actually work and be successful.
We all tend to have flavors of both and depending on the wounding, one way of functioning will tend to dominate. In my wounding, I was much more narcissistic. So in my healing journey, I needed to become more co-dependent. But when it came to romance, I would flip back and forth, depending on who I was interacting with. I don’t view either way of functioning as bad or wrong. In a balanced state, we need to have BOTH. It’s when either characteristic becomes out of balance as a way to function in the world, that it becomes more toxic and harmful to relationships.
Does this make sense? It sounds like in relationships, you tend towards co-dependence – having dated narcissists and having given away your valuable time and knowledge to those clients. But I’m guessing in other areas of your life, you are super strong and boundaried and do NOT negotiate away what needs to happen for you.
Heidi
March 19, 2025 at 2:03 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38382Heidi G
ModeratorOh my goodness! This was all fantastic! It truly is wonderful getting more of a full sense of who you are, a little bit of the why, but mostly seeing more how you think. You are entirely delightful! There is so much to say, so hang with me here. Make sure you keep asking questions, ask for clarification, disagree with anything…we are on an adventure together and it’s important that you say and be exactly who you are, so I can adjust course as needed.
I was being very particular about who I chose this time around because I refused to make the same mistakes I had made in the past. YES! YES! YES! I could sense that about you, which is why I was coming across more blunt and giving you more truths than I would normally. You are able to handle it with an open mindset, whereas a lot of people shut down very quickly when they are not able to receive a perspective that is not their own. Like I have said before, you are very strong!
I wanted a relationship where I could become friends with someone first and then fall in love and create a love that I have never had before, so that’s one of the reasons I chose him in the first place. Tell me more about why you chose him. I understand you both were able to talk on the phone and he felt intriguing to you. What was intriguing? What are some of the qualities that make you want to know him more? Why do you like him and why are you considering him long term?
Lori, once you see what I see in you, you will be unstoppable.” I am not sure I am quite there yet, but I have come a long way. First of all, there is no such thing as getting “there.” I’m not sure where “there” is. Being unstoppable is not place you get to…it’s something you are sometimes and sometimes you are not. Getting “there” means you just don’t quit. It means you keep growing and learning. It means you quit when it’s a healthy thing for you. It means you keep breaking those walls. It means you are increasing your resilience. All of this is a FOREVER journey. It never ends. So from what I see, you ARE unstoppable already. You are here talking to me because you are unstoppable. No matter what has happened to you, you are still getting back up, asking for help, learning more about yourself, giving new things a try…you are fighting for more in your life….you are fighting for a higher quality of love…you are fighting to be a better partner. That makes you unstoppable NOW.
I couldn’t understand why I always chose so terribly I don’t know a single person who hasn’t had those challenging relationships. We choose terribly, because our unresolved pain from the past is in the driver’s seat. Basically, it’s our child energy that is choosing our partner, not the adult. You have to understand how we develop. When trauma or disruption happens, it stores in our system in a state specific form – meaning….if you are 3 years old and you are crying because you fell down and hurt your knee and your mom comes over to you and says “You are such a baby. Stop crying or I’ll give you something to really cry about.” The level of rejection and shaming gets stored in your system with a 3 year old mentality, because that is the current “state” you are in. The smells, the colors, the textures…everything that happens in that moment gets stored in your mind and body as a 3 year old would perceive it. The thing is, we can grow up, but the energy of that 3 year DOES NOT. It’s stored in our system as a 3 year old and will stay that way until we “process” it all the way through. What I mean by that, is connecting to that 3 year old, how she felt, learning the lies that she stored about that moment (i.e. I’m not enough. I’m not worth loving) and then you parent that little girl by helping her release the pain and replacing it with the truth that she is worth loving and knowing. I’m giving you a very general overview here. Basically, healing our childhood wounds means getting those lies out of the system that source the low self-esteem and replacing it with high level truths. When you do that, the child energy integrates and no longer has influence over you today. So…when there is a lot of unresolved, stuck pain, full of lies (low self-esteem), that energy will influence our choices in every aspect of our lives…especially love. The more you heal, the more the adult/current self is in control of who you are attracted to and who you choose to invite in your life. I grew up in an insanely toxic environment, so the men I chose to date were always emotionally unavailable. Once I started doing the deep healing work, that completely shifted, because my adult energy was MORE in charge than my child. It’s a forever journey. I still to this day have my child energy in control sometimes and that’s normal. However, I can recognize it sooooo fast, know what needs to happen, call on my support system if I need to and I deal with it. That’s what an emotionally healthy person does. When they get thrown off course, or out of balance, they are resourced. They are resilient. They are empowered and NEVER the victim. When they do give their power away (which is a normal human experience) they know how to get it back because they are connected to themselves, they are skilled, they are resourced. An emotionally healthy person knows how to stay in the eye of the storm where it’s peaceful and quiet, even though chaos is happening around them. The peace, that quiet, that centeredness is the ability to stay more connected to the higher level of truths vs. the lies running the chaos around them. Does this help you understand a little better? There are so many layers to this and I normally teach this in a class over a couple of weeks.
It all is linked together really, it’s all part of who you are, and how you react to things in each environment feeds a little more into who you are. Yes! This is exactly what I was explaining above, but what I want you to notice is how you figured that out on your own! Not many people are able to do that.
I realized that the loss of his friendship with his ex-girlfriend hurt him more than him getting divorced. His pain from that relationship is deeper than even the pain of losing his wife of 13 years. I know it appears this way, but it’s not what is happening. When we don’t process the hurt and pain from our lives, it just keeps building and building upon itself. It’s like a wound. Let’s say you slice your leg open. But…you decide to just put butterfly strips over it instead of getting it cleaned out and stitched up by a professional. Will the wound heal? Sure…in some ways it will heal over time. The skin will grow back together, BUT the dirt on the inside never got cleared out, so now an infection has grown, but you don’t know it quite yet. Then you fall down and hit your leg on that EXACT spot where the wound was and you scream out in serious pain. Normally, that fall would not cause so much pain, but because there was a previous wound there and an infection growing from that spot, the level of pain is so much more significant. That’s what is happening with him. He hasn’t processed all the pain from his ex wife, so when this most recent ex girlfriend didn’t work out, the pain is that much greater…not because she meant more to him, but because he has a lot of pre-existing pain that just got activated by more pain, more failure, more lies, more low self-esteem. It’s adding up for him because he isn’t skilled, nor asks for help, to release the pain from his past.
I think it’s partially my fault he is talking to her again. Nope. It’s not your fault. NEVER NEVER NEVER take responsibility for someone else’s choices. People do what they do because of what lives within THEM. Sure, we can influence a situation by how we act and behave, but the action someone takes is 100% on them. He is choosing what he is because of a million different thoughts and beliefs that are influencing him – that he is not connected to. You could take a 100 guys and put them in the same exact shoes as him and they would each make a different decision. That is something you do not have control over. Does this make sense?
I have been told I am just like my mom. She was pretty horrible, and in finding out I am high functioning autistic I look back at what she went through, and I am pretty sure, like me, she was misdiagnosed bipolar and being treated wrong. The meds messed her up more than anything. I, myself, refused to be like my mom, but in the end, when she died there was only a handful of people at her funeral, and since she has 5 kids that doesn’t say much at all. I don’t want to be that person. This makes more sense now. This is definitely something to work on. What you are not realizing is that a lot of who you are is based on who you don’t want to be….your mom. Imagine if you NEVER feared being alone at the end? How would you move through life differently? Imagine that you had a very nourishing mother who met a lot of your needs. How would you move through life differently? What people don’t realize is that we each create our own invisible prison of how we are supposed to act or be – so we can avoid pain – according to what we did not get or what we witnessed – and we make those events and stories part of our own story – when in reality, that was just THEIR story and THEIR path and that is where it’s meant to stay. You have woven a lot of your mother’s story into your own that is part of the fear and low self-esteem you live with. We all do it. I still have spot I am working on. Again..unhinging from all these things that life brings our way is a forever journey.
There was a time years ago that my family did something extremely horrible to me, that was pretty much unforgivable, but I forgave them anyway and let them back into my life a few years later, but at arms length. I’m so sorry for whatever happened. I know this kind of feeling. I want to talk a bit about forgiveness here. Forgiving does NOT mean letting people back into your life. Forgiveness just means letting go of the negative energy around whatever happened. That’s it. My family did some unforgivable things as well and I chose to forgive 100%, but I will never talk to them again. Not because I haven’t forgiven, but because they are toxic and unhealthy and not safe for me. It’s my job to protect myself from people who want to harm me – even my family. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t let your family back in as I have no idea what happened. I just wanted to maybe offer a different perspective about what forgiveness is.
I don’t let a lot of people into my circle. I have many acquaintances, people I just know at the bowling alley and from work, but when I need help I don’t really have anyone. I am used to doing pretty much everything on my own. My car breaks, I fix it, if I can’t afford the mechanic I check YouTube and order the parts and fix it myself. They say you shouldn’t count on your children, but they are there for me more than anyone, however, I try not to ask them for much. I want to be their protector. And all my children know they can still call me whenever they need anything. My oldest is 24 and we talk all the time and she even told me the other day, “The one thing I know J knows is if I call you Mama, you’ll always pull up.” I love that you are able to take care of yourself! That is something no one can take away from you. It’s a beautiful strength you have. AND…our greatest strengths are ALWAYS our greatest weaknesses. For example, I have very high emotional intelligence. I am able to instantly understand the many deep layers living within someone. However, it’s also caused harm to my relationships sometimes, because I can overwhelm someone, I for sure have offended people, I point out truths that someone is not ready to hear. So while it’s great, it also is not. It’s actually one of the things I teach about dating. You want to know the shadow side of someone that will ALWAYS be there? Look at their greatest strengths and then flip it…what the dark side of that strength? How can that strength cause harm or disconnect or sabotage?
I also want to encourage you to stay open to inviting people in a little more. Practice sharing more about yourself and then practice observing how people respond to you from that space. Practice asking for help, even when you don’t need it. Practice sharing a struggle and then asking for their opinion and see what happens. Yes, you may get rejected or you may cause someone to feel uncomfortable. Who cares! This is how you learn. This is how I have developed sooooo much inner strength and how I developed my skillset of reading people….by stepping in and pushing my buttons and pushing someone else’s buttons…then practicing how to resolve things if needed. Just a thought.
So, that being said, at least I did something right. My children know I will always be there to protect them. But, going through life always having to be the one to fix things, take care of everyone, knowing that I have severe Crohn’s, and other issues, and knowing that I don’t have anyone to take care of me or help me, is sometimes a bit hard. The weirdest thing is though, when I am in a relationship, I never ask the man to be there for me, I never really show that I need someone. You are not allowing this because of a pretty strong story you have running in your system about vulnerability. There are some walls there. And that’s okay! Considering what you have been through, it’s normal. There is some deeper work that is needed to truly access some of these core, VERY rooted programs that influence how you relate to others…especially romantic partners. If you are interested, I’m happy to give you the information of my coach. She is the most brilliant healer I have ever worked with. Her methods work very fast, she knows how to get to the core of anything, and she is just fantastic. Considering who you are, I think you would love working with her. It’s not easy though. She will take you to some VERY hard places. You will want to quit, run, push her away – and of course you get to do all of that – but if you understand that those are signs that she is getting to the places within you that will create the most freedom and the most strength if healed – and if you stick with it and get to the other side – you will be a completely different person. You will develop an unshakeable resilience, you will have a lot of high self-esteem….I could go on and on actually. LOL. Anyways, just say yes and I will email her info. to you.
I have also been told by others that I am a super-empath and that’s why I attract narcissists, that was a funny one to me. I wouldn’t go so far as to say I am a super-empath, but I do attract narcissists, two that I know for sure I have dated. Just a month ago I had a man at work tell me that I come off as an Alpha or Sigma female and I intimidate men. I don’t really understand how I do this, or if I really even do. And if I am intimidating I don’t know how to fix it. Empaths do not attract narcissists – low self-esteem does. I have seen this a ton…I can absolutely feel your strength and your intelligence, but when it comes to men, it seems like you lose some of that. This is a female thing I have seen over and over and over. These super strong, confident women who are independent and very capable of handling their life…then a man shows up and they shift into something different. While it’s still low self-esteem causing them to lose part of themselves and make different decisions than they would if they were alone, we also are dealing with thousands of years of programming about the roles of men vs. women. This is a HUGE topic I can’t dive into here, but what I would say is this….it sounds like you operate mostly from your male energy side. I used to be like that too. It’s how I survived. It wasn’t until my later years when I started doing a lot of the deeper healing work, that I increased my feminine side. My male side is still just as strong, but my female side has also become a lot stronger. So now I come across as strong AND connective. Strong AND caring. Strong AND inviting. Maybe this is what is happening for you. I don’t know. It’s just an educated guess. You have to look at your relationship with your feminine side and how you feel about that side of yourself being expressed in your daily life.
I have come to realize though that being autistic doesn’t define me, and if anything, realizing why I think the way I do, and why I do the things I do the way I do them, empowers me. Just understanding myself has made a world of difference, and that in itself has made me so much stronger, but I still have such a long way to go. (but don’t we all?) I LOVE LOVE LOVE this! There is NO MISTAKE in how you were made. You were born with a specific canvas that you were meant to work with in this lifetime. On that canvas comes a lot of challenges AND a lot of great things. So life if your playground where you learn to play with what you have been given. I always use this analogy….if you stand close enough to a Monet painting, you will have no idea what you are looking at. You will just see a TON of tiny dots of different colors that make no sense. It looks chaotic, it looks unorganized, it looks messy. But if you step away, at a certain point you will see the beauty, the shapes, the organization, the art – you will see the ENTIRE painting as a hole instead of just the parts. That is the ultimate skill of life. When you look closely at any of us, it’s so easy to see the mess, the chaos, the lack of organization and flow, the dark colors, the light colors and it doesn’t really make sense….that’s what happens when we are in a trigger. We tend to step so close to the “painting” that we can see the whole picture. The skill is being able to take a step back far enough to see the beauty of the situation – no matter what it is. Every harmful situation contains many gifts. Every light situation contains the potential for darkness. So learning how to stay far enough away from every single situation so you can see the WHOLE….which change how you relate to it – it keeps you in a higher, more wise, more clear perspective of how to move forward.
The trauma bond might be a thing, but I am not sure it is. I haven’t decided yet, but it’s in my mind. Tell me what is not resonating for you? Tell me how you interpreted the trauma bond and where it doesn’t feel like it fits for your situation.
LOVING THIS CONVERSATION!!!!
Heidi
March 16, 2025 at 10:23 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38377Heidi G
Moderatorwe really just met each other. I honestly think in time things will come together, and maybe I am hoping for too much too soon. This is fantastic! I’m so glad you have come to this truth and are willing to just let it simmer down and take things slower. Good job for taking your foot off the gas!
Our agreement is that neither one of us will meet each other’s children until we have been together long enough to know we are in this 100% for the long-term. He has met my 20-year-old and is probably going to meet my 24-year-old this week or next. They are adults, and I told him I value their opinions, and he is okay with that. I’m a little confused here. You made this agreement and you are NOT in the place of knowing it’s a 100% long term yet he is already meeting your kids. Am I misunderstanding the disconnect here between your agreement and not upholding that agreement?
I really think I myself might just be a little too much for him. Lets talk about this. What does it mean that you might be “too” much? Too much what?
Also, we haven’t talked yet about your fear about being alone. Tell me more about that.
Clarification: When I say, “I need to talk to you about something,” and I outright tell him what’s bothering me, he has never invalidated me, but when we are just talking or hanging out and I say something, or do something that maybe shows my vulnerability it seems like it was wrong. So it sounds like he is not consistent in his reactions towards whatever it is that you are expressing about your vulnerability. What do you think the difference is between these 2 scenarios?
This is something to REALLY pay attention to when dating anyone. Integrity. Meaning…their words and their actions line up. This guy doesn’t quite match up completely. He says he wants peace, yet he is staying connected to his ex who brought tons of chaos. He listens to you and validates how you are feeling in one situation, but then not in another. I’m sure he has other areas where he is not quite in alignment. This is not unusual for anyone carrying a lot of wounded energy. What they say they want and what they think they want is different than how they act or what they choose. You see it everywhere! Someone wanting to lose weight while sneaking cookies when they are alone. Someone wanting to get out of debt, yet continuing to overspend. We ALL do this in different ways and it’s just a reflection of part of us that are still fractured. The more you see a break in someone’s integrity, the more challenging a relationship will be with them. I’m only pointing this out to help you become a lot more aware and emotionally intelligent about who you are allowing into your life. And also to help you understand yourself better too.
Another thing to pay attention to both in yourself and him is this: whenever you hear “You are the best or most _________ I have had” BEWARE!!! So while he says “You are the most peaceful woman he has ever met” what he is REALLY telling you is that he has made A LOT of poor choices – and that just tells me how much low self-esteem he truly has. And that’s okay! It’s just something to be aware of. Whenever I hear someone say something to that affect, I ask this: (I’ll use him as an example) “Imagine that every single woman you dated was peaceful. What would make this woman (you) worth dating and getting to know?” What people don’t realize is they end up attracted to someone NOT because of who the person truly is, but because they are offering an experience they have never had before. So their attraction is more about the new experience than it is about the person. Does this make sense? You also made a comment similar to this about how he was the first one to really listen to you. So I’m sensing that this may be more of a trauma bond than it is an authentic connection. Can a trauma bond grow into something more authentic and healthy? Absolutely! I’m not saying this to encourage you to move on from this guy. Again, I’m just wanting to shine a light on the some of the possible dynamics happening here. Most people end up letting their FEELINGS and the CHEMISTRY choose the relationship, all the while ignoring the many red flags they aren’t even aware they are ignoring. So my goal is to just keep educating you the best I can, so that you can make a more informed choice about how you want to move forward with this guy.
I half wonder if that fear stems more from what other men have ingrained in my head about me than anything that he has done I just want to touch on this for a bit. One thing to truly consider here is the source. The men you have chosen in the past don’t sound very connected to you or themselves. The truth is, we ALL are too much for someone. One guy I dated said it so well….I had made a comment about a woman being high maintenance and he responded with “She isn’t high maintenance to the guy who is the right mechanic.” He was 100% right. The right guy, the right fit, will not view you as high maintenance. You will be easy for him! Lord knows I have heard about how challenging I can be from the men I’ve dated. The truth is…the level they were functioning at was NOT aligned for me, so OF COURSE I was challenging. I wasn’t picking well.
Now, with that being said, it’s always important to look at what people are saying. You have to know how to pick out the truths in what they are saying, see if it’s worth exploring further and if there is anything you need to be paying attention to about it. Me being challenging definitely had a really powerful message for me to learn from AND at the same time, I am okay being challenging, as that is just part of my personality. There is a limitation to it and there is a greatness about it. It’s my job to know the difference and either way…be loving, compassionate, and accepting of myself either way.
I am loving our conversation! You are bringing up a lot of good points, you are learning, you are growing, you are becoming more grounded in yourself and I am already seeing more strength in you!
Here are a few videos that may be helpful:
Heidi
March 14, 2025 at 11:08 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38375Heidi G
ModeratorI’m so glad I am not overwhelming you and that you are able to digest what I am saying and giving yourself some time with what I am sharing! You are quite strong!
Yay! I’m so glad you felt 100% okay to block your ex. Whew!
but the other day he received a text from her and his face lit up, so it brought everything back. I’m wondering now if it might have been more me than him. Maybe possibly my insecurities fading into it? It’s absolutely possible and likely that your insecurities are at play here AND a woman also KNOWS in her gut when something is a bit off. I do not want you to discount that and chuck it up to your insecurities. Let’s really think about this…if she were REALLY just a friend fully and completely in his heart, do you really think his face would light up like that? No. Does YOUR face light up when you get texts from friends? Mine doesn’t. So I’m guessing you are CLEARLY seeing that his reaction to her is not a pure “friend” kind of reaction. There is something more happening there…within him and I would say that considering the little bit of info. you have shared about him, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is some chemistry still there. Does it mean he will act on it? No. Does it mean your relationship is in jeopardy? No. All it means is that he is still tied to her emotionally on a certain level and not in a healthy way. So again, while you feel this relationship has a lot of potential, as long as he is staying connected to her and having any kind of relationship outside of work, there will ALWAYS be something in the way between you and him. And it’s not HER…it’s his wounding that is keeping him tied to her on any level.
Emotionally healthy people have a low pain tolerance. A healthy person, treated poorly and disrespectfully even once, will walk away and never engage again on ANY LEVEL. People who are being lead by their wounding, will stay engaged with those who treat them poorly much longer. This is why I am saying as long as he is staying connected to her, he is choosing that connection over loving himself. The thing I always ask people who are in any type of toxic connection is this: Is it 100% a loving, nourishing, expansive, opening, healthy decision FOR YOU to invite this person into your inner world…into your heart….into your sacred space? If the answer is no and they are STILL choosing to stay connected, then you know there is A LOT of wounding and low self-esteem driving their need to stay connected. This woman may not be treating him poorly anymore because they are not romantic any longer, but that does not change who she is and how she functions. If she is a narcissist, if she was using him to rescue her in the past, then she hasn’t changed and will continue to just keep using him for whatever it is that she wants from him. So if he were sitting in front of me, I would really confront him about WHY he is staying connected. What is he getting out this “friendship?” How is this connection serving him? My guess is, his answers would demonstrate my point. Of course, I only know one side of the story and I only have the information you are sharing, so I could be completely wrong.
The only thing is, I don’t feel comfortable being myself even, really. He told me he wanted me to be vulnerable with him, but when I was, it was too much drama. He wanted me to be myself, but when I was, he made me feel self- conscious, which we talked about and he is working on.
he never makes me feel like the way I feel is wrong. It’s very refreshing knowing that I can bring anything up and he’s willing to listen without judgement.
Okay…so clarify this for me, because you said both of these things above, but they contradict each other. So help me understand more of what you are feeling.
I have thought this through, I know there are pieces that could be better, and I know there are pieces that could be more healthy, but both of us came into this after only a few months of being done with a terrible, hurtful, relationship, so if we can be patient and forgiving with each other, and build upon what we’ve been through thus far, I truly believe it’ll be one of the (if but the) best relationships both of us have ever had. I wish it were this simple. To be patient and forgiving with each other is truly a beautiful idea, but the issues run MUCH deeper than that. The core issues are about BOTH of you forgiving yourselves and forgiving those people in your past that have deeply caused you harm, abandoned you, rejected you, criticized you, or whatever it is they did to contribute to the amount of low self-esteem that lives within both of you. I’m not saying this relationship cannot work, because it will work until it doesn’t and only time together will bring about the changes needed. My attempt in saying this is to burst your bubble of the idea that all it takes is patience and forgiving each other for this to work. If that’s all any relationship ever took, we wouldn’t have a 50% divorce rate. The deeper you both bond and know each other, the more a light will shine on the darkest parts that within both of you. In those dark parts lives and immense amount of lies, limiting beliefs, massive amounts of fear, and a boatload of insecurities. The healthiest relationships are ones where BOTH people are truly working on themselves first and foremost. Not just reading books, but actually working with experts, they have accountability, they go to classes etc. I feel like you would be that kind of partner, but I’m not sure he would be. Like I said, who a person is in their very worst moments is where the true success or failure of any relationship lives.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t go for it. It’s very clear that you are sold on this guy and he does sound like a great match for you right now. I just want you to step into this choice with a more clear understanding about what exactly you are stepping into. You have some blind spots that I am trying to illuminate for you….that’s all. And as long as you have that awareness, you will be able to navigate this relationship with much more clarity.
Does this make sense?
Also, you are wanting to have a “talk” with him. Tell me what you want to talk about. I’m thinking that maybe at this point, it might be best NOT to have a talk and just let things play out. But let me know WHAT you want to talk about and what you are hoping to accomplish with this talk.
Looking forward to your response!
Heidi
March 13, 2025 at 2:36 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38371Heidi G
ModeratorThanks for sharing more details! Let’s break this down a little more. Let’s REALLY talk about this discussion you want to have with him before you do it.
I’m kind, I’m tolerant, I’m loyal, I’m faithful, I’m loving, and I am very altruistic when it comes to the people I love. I’ve been told that’s not necessarily enough, but what is enough? What a great question!!! There actually is no such thing as “enough.” Meaning, what is enough for each person and relationship varies. The couple has to decide what is enough or not enough. It doesn’t matter though, because ultimately, the ONLY place that “enough” matters is your relationship with yourself. You could be doing everything right for the relationship and your partner could still walk away. Was it because you weren’t enough? That’s not the right question to ask. Relationships are 3 components. You, them, and the relationship. You could love the other person but not love the relationship. You could feel love for the other person but actually not love yourself in the relationship. It is sooooo layered and complicated that reducing it down to “am I enough” doesn’t offer a clear picture. What matters is that you feel and know “I am enough” even if this person doesn’t choose you. “I am enough” even if this person rejects me. “I am enough” even if this person doesn’t fight for me. “I am enough” even if this person tells me I’m not enough. The goal here ALWAYS is to define your self worth, your value, your lovability through higher levels of truth and NOT through someone else. If you allow someone else to decide your value through their choices or their words, you become fragile, dependent, insecure, and fearful. When someone rejects you, the biggest gift they are giving you, is an opportunity to strengthen your self-esteem. Every single time I am rejected by a guy, a friend, a boss, a co-worker….yes, it hurts…yes, my low self-esteem gets activated, but because I have a lot of high self-esteem, I am able to quickly pull that in and remind myself…”I am enough” even if this person doesn’t feel that way about me. So whether you are enough or not needs to be defined by YOU and NOT someone else. Does this make sense?
I kind of made the decision that if this didn’t work I’d rather be alone for a while, but I’m not sure I’m ready to be alone. My kids are all leaving home and I don’t want to be all by myself. How about NOT making decisions until they are right in front you? Just take 1 day at a time and explore what is happening for you. Trust that when you need to make a different decision, it will be presented to you and you can say yes or no.
Let’s look into the “alone” thing. What are you so afraid of? Your desire to NOT be alone is not a reason to be connected to someone. You are going to have to face the empty nesting that every mom goes through and if you try and avoid it by being with a guy, you are just going to be bringing the unresolved feelings into the relationship with you. What are you most of afraid of about being alone? What do you think will happen? What are you afraid to feel?
But when I told my boyfriend about it he basically told me to block him, and I’m not supposed to care that he’s going to the hospital, that seems to be a doubles standard. I’m going to be very strong here. I agree with him. You got away from this guy because you suspected him being sexually involved with your children. He SHOULD NOT, ON ANY LEVEL, be connecting with you. He is NOT safe. It’s not about NOT caring that he is in hospital, but you have broken up, he is toxic, he is not safe and yet you are still choosing to allow him into your life? You are protecting your children from him, but not yourself? Block him!!! He is not a safe person for you to be connecting with on any level!!! What is happening to him in his life is not longer a concern of yours. It doesn’t matter if your current guy is having a double standard. It’s MUCH easier to see someone else clearly compared to yourself. Look at you…you see his situation clearly, yet here you are, doing EXACTLY what he is doing…staying connected and available to an ex who treated you poorly and caused a lot of harm. I know you are not talking to your ex like he is, but your ex still has access to you and you are allowing it. GET AWAY FROM YOUR EX AND NEVER TALK TO HIM AGAIN!!!!! He is dangerous! DO NOT let him pull you back into his world on any level!!! STAY AWAY!!!
Either way is time for a pretty deep discussion with him What are you wanting to talk about? What are you hoping to accomplish with this conversation?
Where it leaves us, I believe will be the way it’s meant to be. Anything can change at any time. Where it leaves you will only be for the moment. You are always changing and so is he….especially in ways neither of you are aware of.
Whether or not I’ll find a man that isn’t a jerk is questionable. First, your guy is not a jerk. He is just wounded. He is doing the very best that he knows how and so are you. Does that mean his best is healthy for you? No. Sometimes the best we can do still causes harm and it’s our job to wake up to that and shift it….but many don’t. It’s just not how they think or how they operate in the world and that’s okay. They are absolutely allowed to move through life in whatever way they want. They are not bad people. They are just limited and wounded. Your guy has a lot of really beautiful qualities and you would not be fighting for this connection with him if he didn’t. It’s more a questions of whether or not this connection is healthy and able to function at the level that YOU are looking for.
I’m honestly not sure I even want to anymore. It’s a hard thing to even decide, if I’m going to try again I mean There is nothing to decide here. Right now, all you need to focus on is what is happening in front of you TODAY. What do you want TODAY? And if what he is offering is not enough, you can choose to adjust your needs or ask for more from him. It’s your choice. Either choice will take you down a path that will bring you to another choice point and you will decide again what path you want to take. That is how life works. Trying to decide now, what you want even a month from now, is unrealistic as you don’t know what will happen between now and a month down the road. So stick with the choices you have TODAY.
And as far as him lending her money for the divorce, is still was inappropriate. He was doing it from a place of wanting to rescue her and NOT in a healthy way, but in a co-dependent, low self-esteem “I want her to like me and value me” kind of way. Making decisions from a place of fear, low self-esteem, anxiety etc. bring toxicity into the decision. It’s NOT about the decision itself, it’s about WHY someone is making a decision. For example, you deciding you want to be with this guy partly because you don’t want to be alone means fear is driving you towards him. It’s not a clear energy. It’s an energy that will muck things up. Does this make sense?
I know I am throwing a lot at you. If it’s too much, just ask me to slow down or break it down even further. Question me, challenge me, ask me to explain further, tell me what is NOT helpful. Anything you feel or need, tell me. That’s part of you strengthening your voice. Your opinion and how you are feeling matters to me, so bring it all out! This is a safe space and I will receive all of it!
Heidi
March 12, 2025 at 3:54 pm in reply to: My Booyfriend Might Still Be Emotionally Connected to His Ex #38369Heidi G
ModeratorHi Lori! Welcome! Thank you for being here and sharing your situation. It’s very layered and there is a lot more to consider than you realize. Let’s see if we can find a clear path forward for you.
He thinks she is narcissistic and will never date her again, but unfortunately I am pretty sure she still has his heart and the only reason he won’t date her again is because of how much she hurt him when they were dating. First, there is no way that she has his “heart.” What she has is his attention. Love does not exist with a narcissist. Anyone attracted to a narcissist is more trauma bonding and NOT actually connecting through the heart. Think about it this way….what kind of person is drawn to someone who treats them bad? Can you actually love someone who treats you poorly? Can you actually love someone who you don’t feel safe with? The connection they feel with that person who treats them poorly is NOT love, it’s NOT authentic attraction, it’s NOT high functioning. What it is, is a person who is used to be treated poorly (usually beginning in childhood) and so they are attracted to someone who supports what their system is used to. This is no different than a little girl who grows up with an alcoholic parent and being abused and neglected, choosing a partner who is also an alcoholic. There is a TON of unresolved trauma energy running in their system and so the partner they choose matches that trauma energy. It FEELS like there is strong, authentic connection, but it’s actually a very unhealthy addiction. So you have to consider….what is going on with HIM that he is calling her his “best friend,” helping her financially with her divorce, calling her a narcissist, was treated poorly – and he still can’t stop talking about her? BIG RED FLAG here. He is quite wounded, has A LOT of low self-esteem, and is not even aware of how unhealthy this relationship with her is and how much his wounded energy is driving him to stay connected with her.
I know I haven’t activated his “hero instinct” and I am pretty sure the reason he is still stuck on his ex is just that, the fact that she has needed him so much.. It’s not that simple. As I explained above, the connection he has with her is coming from his unresolved pain from his past and the “hero instinct” is just a small piece of how it’s being expressed. His need to feel like a “hero” in the way that he does, is excessive and unhealthy.
What can I do to fix this if I don’t really need anything? Let’s talk about you for a second. I understand you are independent. But you can be independent AND “need” him at the same time. Instead of viewing the hero instinct as “needing” him per se, view it as a way that you are creating opportunities for him to be his very best self and for you to be in a state of receiving. I would say that is that hardest part for women…to be in a state of receiving – especially single moms. Single moms are constantly in a state of providing, always thinking about everyone else except themselves. Well, here is a guy that LOVES to rescue (a little too much actually) but he would be great practice for you! For example, you don’t “need” him to carry in the groceries, but you could easily say “Hey! I would really really love your help with carrying in the groceries. Would you mind grabbing a few bags?” And then make sure you super appreciate him after by giving him a kiss and telling him how much you love that you can ask him for help. There are a million small moments where he can be involved in your life, helping you, even though you can do it all yourself. Does this make a little more sense?
He has helped her financially with her divorce Yikes! This is NOT okay. He only dated her for a short time and him helping her financially with something like this is incredibly unhealthy and inappropriate….especially considering how bad she treated him when they were dating. The fact that he was drawn into this with her, just tells me how addicted he is to helping and how much she is using his co-dependent behavior. He is helping someone who doesn’t truly value or respect him. This is a very toxic pattern.
What am I doing wrong? I’d like to offer you another way to look at relationships. Instead of thinking “right” or “wrong” think of it as just a learning experience. Yes, you could do better at inviting him to participate in your life more AND you are dealing with a guy who is more interested in being treated poorly than being with someone who is more peaceful for him. So there is nothing “wrong” here…there is just learning and trying understand what’s happening beneath the surface.
Let me explain this a little further. It’s a very layered concept and I usually teach this in a class format with drawings, but I’ll see if I can explain it here. There is a thing called the “Upper Limit.” It’s the limit we each have that determines how happy we are allowed to feel. The smaller the limit, the less we are able to tolerate feeling happy. The determining factor of how happy we each can be, is directly tied to the amount of low self-esteem we carry. That low self-esteem is established in childhood and grows and grows and grows into adulthood and until our last breath…unless we do something about it. I used to have a TON TON TON of low self-esteem when it came to men, so all I was attracted to were the “bad boy” type of guys who were completely emotionally unavailable. I didn’t believe I deserved any better. Also, it was like a drug. Every time I did get the attention of that “bad boy” it was like I was getting this shot of self-esteem and it would make me feel “I finally am worth it. I finally am lovable. I finally am worth paying attention to.” My father was a narcissist, so he set up this pattern for me. I tried to like the nice guys. I would last about 2 weeks on average before I got “bored” and ended things. So in essence, my upper limit allowed me to feel happy, nourished, well taken care of for 2 weeks. Yikes! I have spent MANY years clearing out my baggage, and in the process, strengthening my self-esteem. Now, there is no way you could pay me to even talk to a “bad boy.” I have no interest whatsoever, but that’s only because I cleared out a lot of my baggage that kept my upper limit so low. You know that you or someone else is reaching their upper limit because they will start to sabotage their happiness in some way. It comes out in a million different ways and they never realize what they are actually doing. All they are doing is following how they feel, but they don’t actually understand that their feelings are coming from a really dark, painful place…not a clear, high functioning place. Sabotage can look like losing interest, picking small fights, starting to find things wrong with the connection, slowly pulling away and becoming unavailable, becoming attracted to someone else etc. And while they do those things because it’s how they feel, most people don’t understand they are actually sabotaging something that is really healthy for them. Does this make sense?
Part of me thinks I should approach this more as a friends with benefits situation in order to guard my heart, but the other part of me just wants to help him let her go and start feeling for me that way. I can’t change the way he feels and I know he won’t go back to her, but because he says he sees real potential in a long term relationship, but he just doesn’t feel it in his heart yet, should I just wait? I am very confused.. I’ll be straight up here. There are 2 main things to consider here.
1. Who he is: you barely know the guy and he already is putting up walls. He is staying in a relationship with a woman he feels is a narcissist and treated him poorly and he brings her into your relationship by talking about her a lot. She is his “best friend.” What does that say about the kind of guy he is?
2. Who YOU are choosing: What is happening within YOU that you would start to tie yourself to a guy that clearly is confused. He says he wants a long term relationship, but his actions are NOT 100% in alignment with that. You KNOW and can FEEL that he is not really available and that this other woman is playing a big role in that. So in essence, this guy is not emotionally available for you…or anyone else for that matter. So YOU are choosing to go on the same type of journey your guy is on. Your guy is staying connected to an emotionally unavailable woman and you are staying connected to him, who is also emotionally unavailable. You both are functioning in the same exact pattern, just in a bit of a different way.
Don’t you want a guy who has NOTHING stopping him from wanting to be with you? Don’t you want to connect with a man who says he wants a deeper relationship and he acts like it too? Relationships are incredibly complicated. Being VERY clear about wanting to be with each other, especially in the very beginning, should not be part of the complication. Personally, if a guy has even a little question as to whether he wants to be with me or not, I’m out. I’m not interested AT ALL in exchanging my energy, my time, my feelings, my vulnerability with a guy who doesn’t know, through and through, the value that I bring to his life. That just tells me he is either not ready for me, or we are not the right fit for each other and I have learned over the years to truly listen and honor that instead of trying to change it. It might be painful sometimes, but it’s much less painful than trying to make someone work that is going to cause me deeper pain the longer I stay in it.
Thoughts?
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorWow. I’m impressed at how clear you have become and how much you are willing to fight for yourself. You are definitely ready to make a shift and expand your relationship with yourself and with love.
I definitely want to fall madly in love and have a healthy relationship We ALL want this. The thing is, it means different things to different people. So I’m going to suggest and exercise for you. This exercise is fluid. Meaning, what is true for you today WILL change as you get older and will change as you change and grow.
It’s the ONLY list I recommend following when it comes to choosing a partner. I call it the non-negotiable list. These are the qualities that are NON-NEGOTIABLE for you in a relationship. These are qualities that are REQUIRED for YOU SPECIFICALLY if you are going to flourish in a relationship. They truly are non-negotiable. So if you have a list of 20 things let’s say….if you meet a guy who has 18 of those 20, IT WILL NOT WORK. EVERY SINGLE QUALITY MUST BE PRESENT in the relationship in order for it to work. Once you have your list, it will be your guiding light as you date. The reality is, no matter how healthy you are, how much you love yourself, how much emotional intelligence you have, for women specifically…we are DRAWN to connection in such powerful ways because it just how we are built. That connection will easily cause us to lower our standards. I have found myself MANY times questioning my non-negotiables because I met a guy who was missing something, but he also had SO MANY other things, that I wanted to make to it work….even though I knew better. So while you say this: I am affirming I deserve love that is safe, consistent, and reciprocated. no exceptions! expect that you will be drawn to emotionally unavailable men again and you probably will try and make it work again. And that’s okay! It’s normal…it’s all part of growth and expansion…and you will learn different lessons. Being strongly connected to your non-negotiable list will help you be much more clear about what you are stepping into. Meaning…if one of those qualities is romance, and you come across a guy who is NOT romantic, but he has other amazing qualities, you probably will still step into it thinking…”well…maybe I don’t really need romance. Maybe over time he might start to show more of it. He has so many other great qualities, maybe it can really work….” I can’t tell you how many times I have this type of conversation with myself…100% knowing what I am doing, aware of the consequences, aware of the outcome…and yet I still stepped into that relationship. My need to connect and have an adventure was much stronger than aligning with my non-negotiables 100%. But again…it’s OKAY!!! It’s part of your journey and I guarantee you will learn more about yourself, so it’s never a waste of time.
Here are some examples of my non-negotiables:
1. romantic
2. loves animals / especially dogs (I do a lot of dog sitting and they are crucial to my balance and well being)
3. high emotional intelligence
4. active – loves hiking, being outdoors, exercising
5. respectful when arguingThese are just a few things I require. These are elements that MUST exist in our connection if I am going to have a high functioning, healthy, and nourishing love that will continue to grow.
It’s super important for you to understand the details of your list. For example, when I was younger and a super athlete, I wanted another athlete. But then, as I tested it out, I dated a guy who was just active…he didn’t play any particular sport, he just lifted and would hike etc. and I learned that an athlete was not required…I just wanted someone who was active. Every single thing on your non-negotiable list should be tested out and explored on the dating journey. Does all of this make sense?
This list is about what you cannot live without, NOT everything you want to have in a relationship. There is a BIG difference.
One way to start is to look at what YOU require in your life in order to keep your balance. For me, it’s being active, outside, with dogs, learning and reading and growing within myself and feeding my spiritual/emotional side. These are just a few things. If I am going to have a deeply intimate and vulnerable relationship with a man, he needs to love those things within himself too…they are organic to him and NOT something that takes effort…these are things that are inherent to his well being as well.Is this making sense?
There also is a fundamental thing that is important to understand about relationships in general. The place relationships break is in the worst of each other. Meaning….it’s how people treat each other in their worst moments where the foundation breaks…where trust and safety are broken over and over and over again. And eventually, the relationship becomes un-repairable.
So when I date, the very first thing I am looking for is how they treat people under stress and how they treat themselves. If they are disrespectful, unaware, critical, abusive, stonewalling or anything that is harmful, I don’t care how amazing the guy is…it will never last. I REQUIRE to be treated with respect, even in the most stressful times.
We ALL have coping mechanisms that get activated, so it’s learning what those are in someone and seeing if it’s something you feel safe with. Obviously, if a guy gets super angry in his stressful, triggered response and becomes critical or verbally abusive, run for the hills! This is also a place for you to work on within yourself. While I require respect, I also give it. I never ask for something from someone, I am not able to offer myself. So developing your skills to manage your stressful emotions is SUPER important if you are ever going to be a healthy partner for anyone. I require this from ALL my close friends and anyone who is involved in my life. But the thing is, it’s not anything I ever have to have a conversation about. Every single person lives that way on their own. It’s just how they function. So when we have disagreements, they are respectful and very high functioning. Honest, authentic, we each own our part in the situation, we talk about what we need different in the future…AND sometimes it might get heated, but the words are never abusive or critical. Respectful means neither person is causing harm.
So some of the questions I ask in the beginning of dating to see this part of someone are things like:
1. Tell me about your biggest heartbreak. What did you do?
2. What is the most hurtful thing that has ever happened to you? What did you do?
3. What are you like when you are angry?
4. What is the biggest hurt you have caused to someone else?Questions along this line where you are asking about the hardest part of life are IMPERATIVE to truly getting to know someone that you are considering letting into your life. For me personally, I ask these questions if I am starting to feel like I am bonding and might have a hard time letting go. One time, I even went as far as testing a guy. We had a date scheduled and I wanted to see if his ACTIONS matched what he told me about how he handled stress. So when he came to pick me up, I made him wait 30 minutes because I was “late.” Then as we are almost to the restaurant, I pretend panicked saying I left my curling on and we had to go back so there wasn’t a fire. That caused us to miss dinner completely because we had tickets for a gallery event after that we had to go to. We get to the gallery and I “accidentally” spill my champagne all over him. Then after that, I give him a little break but as I see that he is in mid conversation with someone he is really enjoying, I go up to him and tell him that I am not feeling well and need to go home. So basically, I POUNDED him with moments where things just were not going well. Nothing significant or meaningful at all, just a lot of annoyances and the energy of discord. As it turns out, he was not what he said he was. He turned into a complete ass in the way of having no compassion, no ability to laugh or joke about the mishaps, he stopped communicating and mainly just projected this seriously irritated energy the entire ride home. He withdrew 100% and didn’t even walk me to my door once home. If that is how he responded to stressors that are just annoyances and not that big of a deal compared to REAL stressors, then I sure as heck had no interest in moving forward with him. He actually never reached out again after that. We had been on several dates, talked very deep and were really bonding and then this night happened and I never heard from him again. As much as it hurt, I was sooooooo glad to have learned this about him sooner than later.
Do you understand what I am getting at?
I guess not wanting to start over, and not wanting to be alone. This is definitely something to explore. This is a very common fear and will drive people into toxic connections all the time. I always tell people….one of the most important skills to develop in order to be a very powerful partner, is to be alone. No dating, no flirting, no nothing. The first time I went through this, is was sooooo painful and unsolicited actually. I had moved to Knoxville Tennessee and it was the first time in my life that I was not getting any attention. I was used to people always looking at me. I was used to guys flirting with me. I was used to have a very filled little black book for whatever I wanted. Then in Knoxville, it was completely silent. I felt anonymous for the first time in my life. Then one day, I felt this question come up…how do I know that I am a woman if men don’t let me know? I had soooooo intertwined my femininity with the energy that men were constantly sending my way. I knew this was a really big question and stepping into that journey would change me in a way that I deeply wanted. It took about 3 years, but emerging on the other side offered me a level of knowing myself and feeling empowered in a way that I had never felt before. I dated completely different after that. I was able to adhere to my standards so much more easily. I attracted a very different kind of guy. Mostly, I became much more solid and self loving. It was everything I had ever wanted, but man…it was a tough season.
That’s the reality of transformation. You have to step into your greatest fears and find out the why, the what, the how…and shift those fears from the inside out. It’s not an easy journey at all, which is why most people don’t take it. But the result is freedom, empowerment, self-trust, self-love….and those results are things no one can ever take away from you.
When I write out what I want versus what I’m getting it makes me upset and I just really can’t justify it anymore. Good! You need to be upset because it wasn’t working. Neither of you are at fault here….you both just have different needs…and the pain is supposed to increase to let you know that it’s time to leave. Pain is one of the greatest motivators for growth.
The last time I did it for him to make him change, but this time I did it for me, and it doesn’t hurt like it did before. He understood and it was peaceful. I love that this was peaceful. How healing! It sounds like you BOTH just accepted what is, and while it may hurt…it’s okay. That is true respect. That is true caring for each other.
I thank you for your words because it gave me that final push needed to do what needed to be done and for the first time in my life I’m choosing me and letting go of a man that is a great guy but cannot meet my needs in this present moment. I am so happy that what I shared was helpful for you! You were ready and are ready to make some deeper changes within.
Looking forward to your response.
Heidi
Heidi G
ModeratorHi Angela,
Thank you for sharing your story. There is a lot going on here…many layers to this very complicated situation.
What is your understanding about why he feels he cannot commit? What does commitment mean to him? Failure? Prison? Loss of freedom? Obviously, he feels like he is going to lose something if he commits and he is not ready to lose it. Do you know what that is?
Since you have done a lot of healing work so far, I will dive right in and be a bit more blunt and bold. If it’s too much, just let me know. I can cause someone to feel overwhelm sometimes or cause them to shut down because I went beyond their capacity, so just be open and honest about what works and doesn’t work with what I share. It’s incredibly tricky trying coach very complicated concepts through this platform.
I believe that it’s not all him and that I can leave him and will still have an issue with men committing to me ( as this is a pattern) until I heal whatever is going on internally. I can see why you would come to this conclusion, but I’d like to give you a different way to look at this. The reality is, what makes a man commit has to do with MANY things. So this pattern of men NOT committing to you, has less to do with you specifically and more to do with what lives within them. I would say that the pattern, or what needs to be healed within you, is the pattern of you saying yes to a man who is not available. Every time you allow a man to enter into your personal, sacred space and you KNOW he is not emotionally available for you to the level you are wanting, you are betraying yourself, right? That’s the core root issue here that needs to be healed. It’s about your relationship with yourself. You keep wanting men to choose you, when they are not capable of doing that…for whatever reason. It’s the “wanting” them to choose you that is the key to exploring this pattern.
Here is a question to really work with, that may help you understand this better. What are you wanting HIM to do for you that you are not willing to do for yourself? So this current guy….you want HIM to choose you, but in reality, you are not even choosing you. If you really were choosing yourself, you would not be involved with him at all. He cannot offer you what you want…plain and simple. It’s clear to you, yet you keep going back to him. So YOU are not choosing you. And so you want HIM to choose you instead.
I work with this concept in relationships….never ask someone to do something or be something that you are not able to do or be yourself. I like to use the analogy of Swiss cheese. We ALL have solid parts and we all have holes. Most people walk around looking for someone to fill their holes. This obviously becomes a very toxic pattern, right? It is no one else’s job to fill our holes. That’s our job. So this brings me back to the question….what hole are you wanting HIM to fill within you, that you are not willing to fill yourself? Does this make sense?
And I firmly believe having negative or limiting beliefs about him, us , or love period will not help me no matter who I’m with. Let me ask this. Is it REALLY a negative or limiting belief by saying “I want a deeply connective, committed type of love that will continue to grow and expand. He is not able to offer that to me right now.”
What I see A LOT of women do, is constantly try and shift or change their needs, their standards, what they want….so they can stay connected with their guy. It seems like you might be doing this. Yes? No?
Your situation, from the little you have shared, seems quite straight forward. You want something from him that he is not able to offer. He may WANT to offer it, but his fear is getting in the way. So…for who he is today, he cannot give you what you want. So in order to stay connected to him, you have to keep negotiating away what you want and need. If you were to REALLY adhere to what you wanted, you would not stay connected to him. This type of pattern, if you dig deep enough, you would find a part of you that is sooooooo strong and ALSO fearful to fall madly and deeply in love. The truth is, if you REALLY wanted to fall madly in love, then you would find someone who is available to take that journey with you – you would not be negotiating away your desires. But instead, you have tied yourself to a man who has some serious limits. You keep getting mad at HIM for his choices, but the truth is – you are the one choosing him and NOT accepting him for who he wants to be. HIS choices are limiting your ability to feel that deep, committed kind of love and YOUR choice to stay is ALSO limiting your ability to feel that deep, committed love. But…you keep getting mad at him and you want HIM to change. That is not where your power lies. Your power lies within. YOU need to change. YOU need to shift how you treat yourself. YOU need to explore what is causing you to sabotage your heart’s desire of falling madly in love. You need to explore where the fear lives within you when it comes to love and relationships.
Okay…I’m going to stop there, as I feel like I have said quite a bit already. Looking forward to your response.
Heidi
February 24, 2025 at 3:02 pm in reply to: Husband Left 4 weeks ago and want to save my marriage #38303Heidi G
ModeratorHi Sam,
Thank you for being honest with how you feel. I’m so sorry you are having to go through this. It is incredibly painful and upsetting and stripping.
I’m sorry I overwhelmed you. Being on this platform can be quite the dance in figuring out how much a person can take, when I hardly know them. Some people really just want it straight up and some need a more gentle approach. It sounds like I missed the mark with you and sent you into overwhelm and that is not my intention. My goal is to always help someone get connected to the truth of their situation instead of letting their desire to get out of pain be their guide. Whenever pain is high and when being faced with loss, people want to “fix” their situation so they don’t have to hurt anymore. My goal and my job as a coach, is to help you look at the facts and whether or not those facts are changeable, fixable, and a healthy endeavor to undertake. But again, my attempt at helping you connect to the facts of your situation, seem to have put you in overwhelm and I’m sorry about that.
With that being said, it sounds like although you are hurting deeply, you are able to face the facts that he is not willing to grow or change – and that is all you need to know that your situation is not fixable at this point in time.
I am here to keep talking with you Sam. Ask your questions, challenge my perspective, ask for ideas on how to heal…I have a lot of experience dealing with the worst of life. I am here to encourage you and support you in any way that I can.
Heidi
February 19, 2025 at 12:55 pm in reply to: Husband Left 4 weeks ago and want to save my marriage #38301Heidi G
ModeratorHi Sam,
Checking in. How are you feeling about what I said?
Heidi
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